Comments Thread For: WBC Anticipates Wilder vs. Povetkin in Early 2016

[joe strong]

****, someone ban this clown. This site is already full of delusional idiots.

the real problem is having 4 world titles. Most of the HWs fight for regional belts to build their ranking which allows them to get into a favourable position without having to fight many top contenders. Most HWs have done this for years. Some examples are Wach fights wlad. Wach got a title shot for beating tye fields, Jason gavern, kevin McBride, jon haggler, galen brown & Christian hammer. he picked up 2 WBC regional titles along the way. Charr did the same thing. alex leapai (which I called a year in advance) won the wbo Asian pacific & oriental titles which jumped him into an eliminator against boytsov who also got a gift ranking from regional titles. arreola has wins over Molina, chazz, travis walker & seth Mitchell & he could be on his 3rd shot. There is nobody in the division more deserving of a title shot then povetkin. after he lost to klitschko he fought 3 top 10 WBC fighters. He got into better shape & knocked out charr, takam & perez. He never took any tuneups. The last guy to fight that level of opposition was dereck chisora but he lost all the fights to helenius, klitschko, haye & fury... eric Molina gets a title shot & then you look back to a guy like david tua who beat 4 former world champions & got one shot. He took out 2 of them in a combined two minutes (moorer & ruiz). If that doesn't tell you how weak the division is then nothing will...

[El-blanco]

Who was ranked as the second best HW in the world before the Wilder-Stiverne fight? Sure as f*** wasn't Sasha haha

if you think stiverne was the second best hw, you're honestly ******ed. There's nothing else to say.

[BWC]

the real problem is having 4 world titles. Most of the HWs fight for regional belts to build their ranking which allows them to get into a favourable position without having to fight many top contenders. Most HWs have done this for years. Some examples are Wach fights wlad. Wach got a title shot for beating tye fields, Jason gavern, kevin McBride, jon haggler, galen brown & Christian hammer. he picked up 2 WBC regional titles along the way. Charr did the same thing. alex leapai (which I called a year in advance) won the wbo Asian pacific & oriental titles which jumped him into an eliminator against boytsov who also got a gift ranking from regional titles. There is nobody in the division more deserving of a title shot then povetkin. after he lost to klitschko he fought 3 top 10 WBC fighters. He got into better shape & knocked out charr, takam & perez. He never took any tuneups. The last guy to fight that level of opposition was dereck chisora but he lost all the fights to helenius, klitschko, haye & fury...

Yes now I will not argue that Sasha is the No 1 ranked contender in the world. But at the time of the Wilder and Stiverne fight he was not. Stiverne was by most publications.

[BWC]

if you think stiverne was the second best hw, you're honestly ******ed. There's nothing else to say.

Really? Who was a rock-solid bet to beat Stiverne before Wilder did?

[El-blanco]

the real problem is having 4 world titles. Most of the HWs fight for regional belts to build their ranking which allows them to get into a favourable position without having to fight many top contenders. Most HWs have done this for years. Some examples are Wach fights wlad. Wach got a title shot for beating tye fields, Jason gavern, kevin McBride, jon haggler, galen brown & Christian hammer. he picked up 2 WBC regional titles along the way. Charr did the same thing. alex leapai (which I called a year in advance) won the wbo Asian pacific & oriental titles which jumped him into an eliminator against boytsov who also got a gift ranking from regional titles. There is nobody in the division more deserving of a title shot then povetkin. after he lost to klitschko he fought 3 top 10 WBC fighters. He got into better shape & knocked out charr, takam & perez. He never took any tuneups. The last guy to fight that level of opposition was dereck chisora but he lost all the fights to helenius, klitschko, haye & fury...

Totally agree, povetkin is far and away the second best.

[BWC]

Totally agree, povetkin is far and away the second best.

IDK. Plenty of other fighters have given Wlad more run than Povetkin. I'd argue that few want to see that fight again..

[joe strong]

Yes now I will not argue that Sasha is the No 1 ranked contender in the world. But at the time of the Wilder and Stiverne fight he was not. Stiverne was by most publications.

he was top 5 but he really only beat 2 HWs. Chris arreola & ray Austin so I don't know if stiverne could be ranked ahead of sasha. Povetkin had wins over Donald, byrd, huck (questionable), chambers, chagaev, boswell, Rahman (washed up). he beat a few good journeymen too in Estrada (when he was decent), firtha, ahunanya. you add charr, takam & perez along with a loss to klitschko & you have a guy with a lot of experience. I would say povetkin was ahead of stiverne but not by much.

[joe strong]

IDK. Plenty of other fighters have given Wlad more run than Povetkin. I'd argue that few want to see that fight again..

I think povetkin would do much better in the return. he has made changes in his camp, got in better shape, has experience fighting him & he is on a tear. If he beats wilder he will have a lot of momentum. I doubt he could beat klitschko but he would be better prepared.

[beez721]

People really seem to despise Wilder. I think he beats Povetkin. He's on a similar level to Stiverne is my eyes and Wilder outclassed him.

povetkin is leaps and bounds better than stiverne. stiverne is garbage. hes a big heavybag with eye balls. at least povetkin can dart in and out with his footspeed and rips combinations. all stiverne does is wait for a big counter punch opportunity that doesnt usually show up unless youre a fat slob like arreola

[beez721]

Yes now I will not argue that Sasha is the No 1 ranked contender in the world. But at the time of the Wilder and Stiverne fight he was not. Stiverne was by most publications.

on paper he probably was ranked ahead of povetkin at the time but anyone with a descent boxing brain could see povetkin was the better fighter. stiverne is a plodding lazy fighter that just waits for that big counter punch. the first arreola fight was the only fight he ever looked descent in and arreola is garbage