Comments Thread For: Team Lomachenko To Rigondeaux: 126 or No Fight

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Loma deserves credit for how he has started his career. I don't recall anyone in my time watching the sport start off his career with this resume. If he fights everyone he can and wins all those fights, definitely possible, he could be the next guy to crack the top 10-20 ATG list.

That said, this call out feels like he is trying to shade the fact that he doesn't want to fight Walters right now because Walters, if he makes 126, will surely come in about 10lbs heavier than Loma. He looks somewhat hypocritical after complaining about weight then calling up a smaller fighter.

It is also surprising that an Arum fighter would call Rigo out given his past with Arum and Arum's position Rigo is boring. Would HBO put this fight on?

Given the Salido loss, I can completely understand why Loma doesn't want to suffer another defeat right now, especially one where weight could be a factor.

He will likely fight Simpie, which is still a good fight. Just isn't Walters, the one we all wanted to see who the best 126lber in the world is.

That's understandable. It makes no sense to dismiss Walters only to turn around and force Rigo to fight at a weight disadvantage. But to avoid beating around the bush his team obviously is looking for the older, aging fighter that has a more recognizable name among boxing fans, appears in the top 10 on every p4p list and appears to be more beatable.

[The Big Dunn]

That's understandable. It makes no sense to dismiss Walters only to turn around and force Rigo to fight at a weight disadvantage. But to avoid beating around the bush his team obviously is looking for the older, aging fighter that has a more recognizable name among boxing fans, appears in the top 10 on every p4p list and appears to be more beatable.

That is the smart play. Loma getting Rigo on his resume at this point in his career would be a major accomplishment. It also allows him to avoid Walters who, lets face it, is a tough SOB, more experience, would be bigger, and knows how to win a pro fight.

Loma is doing what is best for his career long term and I completely understand that.

[CuriousGuest]

I think so. I mean, if Walters is too big for Loma then he wouldn't try to do the same to Rigo right.....? Or that would be called being a hypocrite. I think.

Did I miss anything? Has any1 from Loma's team made any excuses that Walter's too big to fight vs Loma? I don't think, so you are just running you mouth with nothing

[megas30]

Fair, for as much I want to see the fight, any catchweight is foolishness. I still can't even wrapped my mind over Floyd's win over Canelo. Catchweight don't belong in the sport.

[darius45]

Did I miss anything? Has any1 from Loma's team made any excuses that Walter's too big to fight vs Loma? I don't think, so you are just running you mouth with nothing

Actually Loma specifically mentions that Walters would have a huge weight advantage when he rehydrates...

[Najuk]

Actually Loma specifically mentions that Walters would have a huge weight advantage when he rehydrates...

any link to this?

[HI-TECH Boxing]

Loma deserves credit for how he has started his career. I don't recall anyone in my time watching the sport start off his career with this resume. If he fights everyone he can and wins all those fights, definitely possible, he could be the next guy to crack the top 10-20 ATG list.

That said, this call out feels like he is trying to shade the fact that he doesn't want to fight Walters right now because Walters, if he makes 126, will surely come in about 10lbs heavier than Loma. He looks somewhat hypocritical after complaining about weight then calling up a smaller fighter.

It is also surprising that an Arum fighter would call Rigo out given his past with Arum and Arum's position Rigo is boring. Would HBO put this fight on?

Given the Salido loss, I can completely understand why Loma doesn't want to suffer another defeat right now, especially one where weight could be a factor.

He will likely fight Simpie, which is still a good fight. Just isn't Walters, the one we all wanted to see who the best 126lber in the world is.

The thing is though, how do you know that Lomachenko vs Walters won't ever happen? Of course it's not going to happen next, like it was originally intended to, but that doesn't mean it won't happen in the future. I don't expect Loma to stay at 126 forever, that's why I don't understand these Loma haters that are so confident that the fight will never happen (not saying you're a hater btw.). We don't even know what Walters is planning on doing with his career, he said after the fight he'll decide in two weeks but hasn't said anything. We don't know if he's going to attempt to stay at 126 or if he knows he probably can't make it anymore. We should just be patient, Loma vs Walters will happen, but probably at 130 now unless Walters can somehow get back down. Loma will probably be forced to move up pretty fast anyway, he can't fight most of the guys at 126. Haymon guys won't be available for him, Selby doesn't want any, so he's left with Vetyeka and a few others. That's why I think Loma's manager called out Rigo.
Walters and Loma are still young, I'm confident the fight will happen.

[CuriousGuest]

That's understandable. It makes no sense to dismiss Walters only to turn around and force Rigo to fight at a weight disadvantage. But to avoid beating around the bush his team obviously is looking for the older, aging fighter that has a more recognizable name among boxing fans, appears in the top 10 on every p4p list and appears to be more beatable.

Pathetic comment. Nor Loma neither his manager never complained about the weight advantage of Walters in the fight IF he makes it on the official weighing. And has the belt.
Now as it seems Loma won't get any of the belt holders in 126 for the next fight, Walters is the best option again. And Loma will never say a word if Axeman will be 126 on the scales and rehydrates as much as he can. But there's a big chance Walters will intentionally not make weight which will give him even more pounds in rehydration day. If Walters can't make 126 anymore or feels it will make him exhausted he just should move up.
By the way, Rigo is much more dangerous opponent than Walters for Loma, although he will beat both.

[The Big Dunn]

The thing is though, how do you know that Lomachenko vs Walters won't ever happen? Of course it's not going to happen next, like it was originally intended to, but that doesn't mean it won't happen in the future. I don't expect Loma to stay at 126 forever, that's why I don't understand these Loma haters that are so confident that the fight will never happen (not saying you're a hater btw.). We don't even know what Walters is planning on doing with his career, he said after the fight he'll decide in two weeks but hasn't said anything. We don't know if he's going to attempt to stay at 126 or if he knows he probably can't make it anymore. We should just be patient, Loma vs Walters will happen, but probably at 130 now unless Walters can somehow get back down. Loma will probably be forced to move up pretty fast anyway, he can't fight most of the guys at 126. Haymon guys won't be available for him, Selby doesn't want any, so he's left with Vetyeka and a few others. That's why I think Loma's manager called out Rigo.
Walters and Loma are still young, I'm confident the fight will happen.

There is no guarantee the fight will be significant at another weight as these men are relatively young. This isn't a SRL/Hagler or Floyd/Manny deal, but more like a JuanMa/Gamboa situation. we know how that panned out. The fight was to see who is the best 126lber in the world. If it happens later, we will not get that.


Look dude, you want to be patient solely because Loma is at fault and comes off looking scared. Then calling out Rigo he looks hypocritical.
I know you want to put the best spin on this as possible, but its hard for me not to see this as deflecting. I mean, if you wont fight Walters because he is bigger, why would you expect rigo to fight you when he would be smaller?

Loma has been aggressive in picking tough opponents and I will always give him credit for that. But he is just like every other major boxer. he is going to make a long term decisions to protect his earning potential. he can't risk a loss to Walters right now.

[PACBOY]

That's understandable. It makes no sense to dismiss Walters only to turn around and force Rigo to fight at a weight disadvantage. But to avoid beating around the bush his team obviously is looking for the older, aging fighter that has a more recognizable name among boxing fans, appears in the top 10 on every p4p list and appears to be more beatable.

With Walters that is what he chose to do. So what, that makes him obligated to go down in weight more than he wants to because he didnt fight Walters?

If rigo feels he can take him 4lbs more than let get it on. If not, then go on! But lets not feel that the weight is an issue and still ask for a re-hydration stipulation.