Would do you consider a better trainer between Nacho Beristein and Freddie Roach

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  • mastertech1985
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    #1

    Would do you consider a better trainer between Nacho Beristein and Freddie Roach

    I go with Nacho

    he has trained great fighters from scratch, has been in the game longer, has probably trained more hall of famers from scratch than any modern trainer


    Roach has the accolades but Nacho has a far deeper boy of work
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    #2
    Beristein teaches better technique and brings fighters up from amateurs , Freddie is flavour of the month and has better established champions walk through the door , because of affiliations and politics there is more opportunity with Roach but Nacho is the better boxing trainer .

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    • Sugar Adam Ali
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      #3
      Nacho molds a more complete technical fighter..

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      • therealpugilist
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        #4
        Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
        Nacho molds a more complete technical fighter..
        Surprised their aren't more responses

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        • therealpugilist
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          #5
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          Beristein teaches better technique and brings fighters up from amateurs , Freddie is flavour of the month and has better established champions walk through the door , because of affiliations and politics there is more opportunity with Roach but Nacho is the better boxing trainer .
          Pretty much how I see it

          Roach's name gets some of his guys chances they wouldn't have got with lower profile trainers

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          • AddiX
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            Roach has worked with way more styles and improved the careers of way more fighters than Nacho.

            What Nacho did with Marquez is a work if art though, Marquez doesn't get the respect he deserves, best Mexican boxer ever IMO.

            Both great trainers.

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            • therealpugilist
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              #7
              Originally posted by AddiX
              Roach has worked with way more styles and improved the careers of way more fighters than Nacho.

              What Nacho did with Marquez is a work if art though, Marquez doesn't get the respect he deserves, best Mexican boxer ever IMO.

              Both great trainers.

              He started far more than Marquez from scratch

              He has his brother Rafael

              Started out managing atg vincente saldivar

              He also trained these HOFers Daniel Zaragoza, Gilberto roman, atg Ricardo Lopez, Humberto Gonzalez pretty much all their whole careers

              Also trained guys who were established already like roach does but I give him the edge cause he guided guys to titles and through their careers.... He's an old
              school trainer


              Roach is great but IMO I'd rather be trained by nacho....so in my eyes he's better


              All his fighters have good technique and skills...he gets down to the basics n strategy, roach gets you in shape and he tweeks things guys already know how to do


              I say nacho

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              • AddiX
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                #8
                Originally posted by therealpugilist
                He started far more than Marquez from scratch

                He has his brother Rafael

                Started out managing atg vincente saldivar

                He also trained these HOFers Daniel Zaragoza, Gilberto roman, atg Ricardo Lopez, Humberto Gonzalez pretty much all their whole careers

                Also trained guys who were established already like roach does but I give him the edge cause he guided guys to titles and through their careers.... He's an old
                school trainer


                Roach is great but IMO I'd rather be trained by nacho....so in my eyes he's better


                All his fighters have good technique and skills...he gets down to the basics n strategy, roach gets you in shape and he tweeks things guys already know how to do


                I say nacho
                That's a respectable answer, I didn't even know he trained Lopez.

                Roach has built a lot of careers that probably didn't exist without him, also saved a lot of careers. Cotto being the latest career he's revived.

                A lot of people Domt give as much respect to trainers who pick u fighters later in there careers. But thats an extremely hard skill IMO.

                Especially in Roaches case, as he tends to make fighters more offensive minded.

                Unlike nacho who has worked with his guys for years, Roach has to break fighters old bad habits, one of the hardest things to do in boxing.

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                • Mike D
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                  #9
                  Nacho is a cut above from a strategic (and technically as pointed out above) standpoint

                  &

                  Freddie is a cut above from an aggressive offensive standpoint

                  depends on the style and mentality of the fighter...some guys would be better with Roach and some better with Nacho

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                  • ElMeroChingon
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                    I say Nacho simply because he has literally build champions from the ground up.

                    One thing i noticed, If you want to be with Nacho, your best chances are if you're there from day one. It's a slow cooking process with him, but with discipline, the results are impressive.
                    Ricardo Lopez is one of the most complete fighters I've seen, a boxer puncher, in the sense that his shots are so precise and effortless.

                    It's a beauty to watch.

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