Comments Thread For: Pavlik Says Cotto Too Small, Golovkin-Canelo is The Fight

[Beater_of_ass]

There are so many holes in this post, I don't even know where to start. Lets go through your post piece by piece.

"Lineal MW champion" is a term that can be used loosely. Martinez was beaten by Murray 14 months earlier and gifted a decision. He then had reconstructive knee surgery and came back as a washed up 40-year-old to collect his pension. Truth be told, he'd been declining for quite a few years as he struggled with the likes of Barker.

If he lost to Pacquiao and Margarito at 147, do you accept he wasn't "the man"? I'm going off what I see and what the judges saw, not what Floyd says. Floyd, as well as a lot of other fighters regularly contradict themselves and often say people were 'tpugh' out of respect.

So now onto Cotto being better than Canelo because he performed better against Floyd. New to boxing you say? Well anyone with a shred of knowledge will tell you styles make fights and A>B>C just doesn't apply to boxing. Is George Groves better than Andre Ward because he knocked Paul Smith out faster?

Is he f**k.

You really are clutching at straws when you're talking about a few rounds against common opponents. And what's even more hilarious is that (ignoring the freak 114-114 card), the judges actually had the Canelo-Floyd fight slightly closer! Not that it was, but Canelo won at least 1 round and to say Cotto won 4 or 5 more implies he deserved a draw against Floyd? Is that what you're saying?

FYI, I can, and have, shat all over that 'Martinez' victory. I use inverted commas as the only thing that resembled Martinez in that ring, and in the Murray fight, was his physical appearance.

Finally Canelo isn't even close to being my favourite fighter -he's had a few oddgy wins including Lara and Trout. But the versions of Lara and Trout he beat were certainly better opponents than a disabled Sergio Martinez.

Anyone with a brain knows the real MW champion is GGG and he'd absolutely obliterate Cotto a la Margarito I, but in a faster, more barbaric fashion.

I'm not even bothering to read this... well I did and then you said Sergio wasn't the real champion even though he won his last fight. ****ing L O L! I stopped reading there and I'll stop responding to you here.

[alexKO]

I'm not even bothering to read this... well I did and then you said Sergio wasn't the real champion even though he won his last fight. ****ing L O L! I stopped reading there and I'll stop responding to you here.

So read the George Groves>Andre Ward analogy?

The sign of a beaten man. Reminiscent of that 11th round sight of your hero on his knees after a brutal plastering at the hands of Tony.

Martinez got a gift against Murray - you know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

Trevor Berbick = The Greatest

#Beater_of_assLogic

[Beater_of_ass]

So read the George Groves>Andre Ward analogy?

The sign of a beaten man. Reminiscent of that 11th round sight of your hero on his knees after a brutal plastering at the hands of Tony.

Martinez got a gift against Murray - you know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

Trevor Berbick = The Greatest

#Beater_of_assLogic

Nope, and like the other thread I stopped reading here. I simply have no time to hear a guy say Canelo is better than Cotto while saying it's Cotto's fanbase who is delusional. Especially when that same fan has his favorite fighter FIGHTING in the MW division while ****ting on Cotto for fighting MW's lol. That's all it really is you're looking too much into it.

[Interloper]

1) Cotto is a much better fighter than Canelo.

2) Cotto can't make 147lbs. anymore. He would struggle to make 154lbs. now.

3) Cotto has trouble with speed + power fighters, or pressure fighters with great chins. Golovkin has everything but the speed.

4) Cotto could beat Golovkin if he fought at 100% and Golovkin had an off night.

5) Should Cotto fight Golovkin? Absolutely not.

[hitking]

1) Cotto is a much better fighter than Canelo.

2) Cotto can't make 147lbs. anymore. He would struggle to make 154lbs. now.

3) Cotto has trouble with speed + power fighters, or pressure fighters with great chins. Golovkin has everything but the speed.

4) Cotto could beat Golovkin if he fought at 100% and Golovkin had an off night.

5) Should Cotto fight Golovkin? Absolutely not.

In a P4P sense, IMO a primed Cotto was a better fighter than GGG and likely a stylistic nightmare for Gennady, in a weight indifferent world. GGG can't fight on the inside. And Cotto's non-stop, stalking, body attack would break him down. Problem is, that Cotto was a jr welterweight (he did it some as a welterweight). A jr welterweight with chin issues.

[Larry the boss]

I dunno. I think he looks EXACTLY 5'9". Floyd is 5'8".

So why does Floyd look taller?

[Larry the boss]

If Canelo flattened down his back combed, bouffant hair he would be the same height as Floyd, maybe even a little shorter.

Thats what i see Floyd is taller.this **** is weird cause Canelo and GGG look the same height, but standing by GGG Cotto looks like a midget

[Larry the boss]

Canelo's spent the majority of his career at 147 also, what the ****?

How can Canelo be the legitimate 154 champion when the only belt he won at 154 was the "b*tch" version of the WBC belt? Floyd had the real WBC belt and Trout had the "normal" one which he won with open scoring in Texas. That's not legitimate in anyway lmfao. Cotto was the man at 140, the man at 147, the man at 154 and the man 160. Canelo has only been the man at 155.

GGG beating Canelo is like beating himself. A guy with 1 or 2 good wins and a whole bunch of hype. The difference is GGG hasn't struggled with anyone and Canelo struggles against any who even remotely boxes. But, feel free to fall into the hype train again it'll make that much better when it derails again.

Cotto was never "THE MAN" at 140..Hatton was..Cotto was never" THE MAN" at 147 Floyd was..Cotto has NEVER dominated a division..sure he has fought the best and that can not be denied..BUT HE WAS NEVER THE MAN!!!

[Beater_of_ass]

Cotto was never "THE MAN" at 140..Hatton was..Cotto was never" THE MAN" at 147 Floyd was..Cotto has NEVER dominated a division..sure he has fought the best and that can not be denied..BUT HE WAS NEVER THE MAN!!!

Cotto's the man in any division but Hatton knew to stay away, him and his team. At 147 you could say Floyd but he retired after Hatton. That made Cotto the man, at least until he was cheated out of it by Marg. And at 154, he was THE MAN when Floyd fought him there. Who was better? WW was his weakest reign because Floyd was in it most of the time.

[Contra]

In a P4P sense, IMO a primed Cotto was a better fighter than GGG and likely a stylistic nightmare for Gennady, in a weight indifferent world. GGG can't fight on the inside. And Cotto's non-stop, stalking, body attack would break him down. Problem is, that Cotto was a jr welterweight (he did it some as a welterweight). A jr welterweight with chin issues.

HAHAhahahahahahahahahaha
are you fkn serious with this shít?

"non-stop, stalking body attack"?
gtfo with that nonsense. GGG vs Cotto at ANY weight, both in their primes, and we'll see who stalks who around the ring.

fúckin trolls on this site...