Is there one Gennedy Golovkin opponent...

[Robbie Barrett]

GGG has been facing guys in the top 15 maybe up to top 25 but definitely in the top 50... His last 5 opponents were probably top 25 in boxrec.

Murray, Geale, and Macklin were all probably top 10 guys at the time too.

The thing is GGG is levels above these guys, hell I bet Nobuhiro Ishida was top 50 and Ishida KO'd Kirkland faster than Canelo did.

He's talking P4P, Murray, Geale, Macklin were nowhere near top 10-15 even on boxrec.

[Barcham]

He's talking P4P, Murray, Geale, Macklin were nowhere near top 10-15 even on boxrec.

P4P lists are completely irrelevant in determining the quality of a fighter. They are totally subjective lists and no two of them are the same as they are too dependant on the opinion of the person putting the list together. People tend to find a site that has a list that fits with their own preferences and will defend that list to the death while dismissing all other lists that do not feature their favorite fighter in as high a position or that fighter is not on the list at all.

Basically, P4P lists are totally useless.

[Robbie Barrett]

P4P lists are completely irrelevant in determining the quality of a fighter. They are totally subjective lists and no two of them are the same as they are too dependant on the opinion of the person putting the list together. People tend to find a site that has a list that fits with their own preferences and will defend that list to the death while dismissing all other lists that do not feature their favorite fighter in as high a position or that fighter is not on the list at all.

Basically, P4P lists are totally useless.

Boxrec uses a points system, opinion doesn't come into it.

[Barcham]

Boxrec uses a points system, opinion doesn't come into it.

Points systems do not work with P4P lists. There are simply too many variables to take into consideration and certain areas are given more weight than others because that is what the person creating the system personally feels is important. Some people, for instance, believe that heavyweights do not belong on any P4P list and others believe that a person cannot be properly considered if he has only fought at one weight class.

They can be fun as a discussion topic but people tend to take them WAY TOO SERIOUSLY.

[SilverMiles]

Pound for pound list rely too much on popularity and a lot of time writers use them as a way to hype fighters.

Ring ranked Broner for some off reason and Crawford is ranked now based on a win over lightly regarded Beltran and a featherweight.

Most time they don't truly represent the sport and most time refuse to move a fighter from #1 even when there clearly not the best fighter in the world.

[Queen_Leia]

Pound for pound list rely too much on popularity and a lot of time writers use them as a way to hype fighters.

Ring ranked Broner for some off reason and Crawford is ranked now based on a win over lightly regarded Beltran and a featherweight.

Most time they don't truly represent the sport and most time refuse to move a fighter from #1 even when there clearly not the best fighter in the world.

P4P are opinionated based but is a needed apparatus. if you are one of the best in boxing, there needs to be a list to distinguish the elite from the cab drivers.

If we had no check and balances, we would see fighters like rod Salka fighting a fighter like Terrence Crawford and we would be calling it a elite fights.

No, thanks to P4P list, we know that Salka is a garbage fighter because he will never be on that list. Yes P4P are opinionated based but universally if a fighter belong on the list but more so the order.

We all agree whether you hate him or not that Floyd Mayweather belong on a P4p list just like we all agree whether you hate him or not that Rod Salka doesn't belong on any P4P list.


Is Gennedy fought any P4P fighters yet?

[Queen_Leia]

im not saying hes scared but it is strange hes not willing to fight the ones who are willing like ward and lara

Gennedy may not want any pound for pound fighters on his boxing resume.

[Queen_Leia]

I just look at his resume last night again...none of the fighters on tha tlist could make a top 50 pound for pound list.

[2shameless]

But GGG is a coward for wanting to fight #1 p4p and current linear, WBA and WBC 154 lb champ at 154.

You can't make this stuff up.

[mike1010011]

But GGG is a coward for wanting to fight #1 p4p and current linear, WBA and WBC 154 lb champ at 154.

You can't make this stuff up.

Too small doe,too old doe,not a real 154 lb fighter doe,deserves to fight berto doe.