Did Mayweather just basically answer all of this guy's questions....

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  • BOXEO _
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    #21
    Too bad Floyd "retired" when the welterweight division looked like this.


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    • ADP02
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      #22
      Originally posted by big_james10
      Mosley turned down a Mayweather fight at 135. Cotto's team turned the fight down at 140. Pacquaio turned the fight down in 2010. Hatton's team turned down a fight with Mayweather at 140 and twice at 147. I know you are not as ****** as you sound, but you are doing your damnest to make everyone a believer.

      Floyd uses timing, CWs and other advantages then says, "see, I can beat them".

      - Cotto fight should have happened at 147 when Cotto was ready. Floyd said he didn't want to fight Cotto at that point.
      - Hatton fight shouldn't have taken place at 147. Floyd fought him at 147.
      - Marquez should not have happened since Marquez jumped 3 divisions in a year.
      - Margarito fight didn't happen.
      - Oscar no longer Oscar. More a promoter by then.


      Mosley, Floyd didn't want to fight him until he admits "Mosley is now old".

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      • Ahmed_Ismail
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        #23
        Originally posted by ADP02
        I said this years ago that if Floyd fights them, it will happen late.



        Here is Floyd's own words:
        Speaking with FightHype, Mayweather (47-0, 26 knockouts) says that the 36-year-old Filipino boxer Pacquiao (57-5-2, 38 KOs) has lost a step following his 2012 knockout loss to Juan Manuel Marquez.

        ***8220;He may not be the same fighter, but this is a guy that I cannot overlook,***8221;

        ***8220;Once Alex Ariza left, he's a totally different fighter,***8221; said Mayweather



        Here is another interview with Floyd:
        "I'm seeing something totally different in Pacquiao," Mayweather said.

        Mayweather said he saw a much weaker Pacquiao April 12 in a decision win against Timothy Bradley than the one who stopped Miguel Cotto in the 12th round of a 2009 bout.

        "I don't see the same pop in Pacquiao's shots -- me, myself, I don't see the same snap in his shots," Mayweather said before. "He's getting tired and he wasn't getting tired before. So, I mean, I'm seeing something totally different."
        Read between the lines, he's implying that Pacquiao slowed down once he started taking random blood and urine testing, I think Pacquiao voluntarily did random blood and urine testing (using his a different protocol than the he did with Mayweather) for the Bradley fight and that's what Mayweather was getting at.

        Pacquiao camp were talking the whole time about Floyd Mayweather being shot and him not being able to use his legs anymore, that's what Roach has been saying since Floyd's fight with Cotto in 2012, and Floyd proved him totally wrong in the fight where he was moving like a lightweight. Both were old and both slowed down, but Mayweather unlike Pacquiao, had basics, fundamentals and ability to adjust.
        Last edited by Ahmed_Ismail; 07-04-2015, 11:11 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by daggum
          lol so he fights cotto after 4 years and pac after waiting 5 years and you think thats shutting people up? in any other sport that would be laughable. if a team beats the patriots in 5 years will that prove they are better than the patriots of last year? can't believe some fans are so clueless. floyd obviously waits for explosive fighters to slow down and flat out refuses to fight some like margarito. or in floyd fans minds...he made them eat their words! just took 5 years...of waiting
          whats funny that same version of cotto got dismantled by bum ass trout, that same version of mosley went life and death with Cano, That same version of Pacquaio went 12 rounds with Rios, That same version of Ortiz got knocked out lopez, that same version of guerrero got dropped and beat by a construction worker.

          Pssh color me unimpressed.

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            #25
            Originally posted by B0XEO
            Too bad Floyd "retired" when the welterweight division looked like this.


            Cotto's camp didn't want the fight in 2006 along with Arum cuz it was a high risk low reward fight since Floyd wasn't so famous, they started to mention Floyd after his fight with Dela Hoya.

            When Mosley was asked about a potential fight in 2006 he said he wanted to take a vacation with his family. The Margarito fight was going to get made but uncle Bob was too greedy and tried to shortchange Floyd, which lead to Floyd to buy out his contract and be on his own, plus Margarito was a cheater so he doesn't matter. Paul Williams was an unkown fighter at the time and when Floyd came back in 2009 he moved up in weight and got KOed.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail
              Read between the lines, he's implying that Pacquiao slowed down once he started taking random blood and urine testing, I think Pacquiao voluntarily did random blood and urine testing (using his a different protocol than the he did with Mayweather) for the Bradley fight and that's what Mayweather was getting at.

              Pacquiao camp were talking the whole time about Floyd Mayweather being shot and him not being able to use his legs anymore, that's what Roach has been saying since Floyd's fight with Cotto in 2012, and Floyd proved him totally wrong in the fight where he was moving like a lightweight. Both were old and both slowed down, but Mayweather unlike Pacquiao, had basics, fundamentals and ability to adjust.
              You do not need to read between the lines. Floyd only became interested after he said that "Manny is no longer the same fighter". That is what is important here. No matter what, Floyd didn't want to fight the Manny that he was threatened of. He waited and wanted to fight the Manny 2015 version.

              So, just to keep it simple to what this thread is about, Floyd did NOT answer the questions posed years ago.

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                #27
                Originally posted by ADP02
                Floyd uses timing, CWs and other advantages then says, "see, I can beat them".

                - Cotto fight should have happened at 147 when Cotto was ready. Floyd said he didn't want to fight Cotto at that point.
                - Hatton fight shouldn't have taken place at 147. Floyd fought him at 147.
                - Marquez should not have happened since Marquez jumped 3 divisions in a year.
                - Margarito fight didn't happen.
                - Oscar no longer Oscar. More a promoter by then.


                Mosley, Floyd didn't want to fight him until he admits "Mosley is now old".
                Cotto - Arum didn't want the Floyd fight for Cotto at 140 when they were both TR because he felt Cotto wasn't ready. I agree the fight should have happened after the Hatton fight but Floyd took a hiatus.

                Hatton - Floyd was the P4P and welterweight champion with all the leverage. What fighter goes down in weight to challenge a lesser opponent for their title?

                Marquez - fight was a tune up, nothing more nothing less. Styles make fights and regardless of size, Floyd beat JMM 10 out of 10 times and JMM and Nacho know this.

                Margarito - Arum created the Margarito boogeyman after Floyd bought out of his contract to leave. There was never any mention of Marg being a threat or opponent until Arum took to the media and built him up.

                Mosley - Floyd was calling for that fight when Shane was at 135 but Shane didn't feel he was worth it and chased bigger names and money at Welter. Sounds familiar?

                DLH - Money fight.

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                • Ahmed_Ismail
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by CANELOLUJAH
                  whats funny that same version of cotto got dismantled by bum ass trout, that same version of mosley went life and death with Cano, That same version of Pacquaio went 12 rounds with Rios, That same version of Ortiz got knocked out lopez, that same version of guerrero got dropped and beat by a construction worker.

                  Pssh color me unimpressed.
                  It doesn't matter what happens AFTER the fight, it only matters what the fighters did RIGHt BEFORE the fight.

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                  • Boxing1836
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by crazyboy867
                    Mayweather fought Mosley RIGHT AFTER Mosley destroyed margarito...
                    Mayweather fought Cotto RIGHT AFTER Cotto destroyed margarito...
                    When Mayweather fought Pacquiao, they were both a little bit slower.

                    and No, Margarito and Williams both lose to Mayweather. Margarito's only strength is pressure and chin. those advantages dont apply to mayweather because:
                    1.) mayweawther doesnt go for the KO
                    2.) mayweather knows how to move around the ring so the pressure that margarito would apply wouldnt mean ****. just watch the maidana/guerrero fight.

                    some of you still dont get it. pressure and power alone is not going to beat floyd. you are NOT going to knock him out. you need speed, volume and accuracy in order to beat floyd on points. thats why i think khan has a chance to beat him..
                    no he fought cotto after getting knocked out by pac and margarito, and a close controversial decision to clottey. Its quite clear he wasn't the same

                    and he beat mosley after losing to cotto and a year and a half lay off

                    And he beat pacqiuao after 6 fn years and a brutal knockout loss to marquez


                    IF he fought this guys when they should of happened, people wouldn't have an argument.

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                      #30
                      Alvarez is by far the best win out of those, great performance from Floyd

                      Pacquaio, Cotto, Mosely... Floyd obviously waited until they were "business decision opponents" (past it)

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