Did Mayweather just basically answer all of this guy's questions....

[Ahmed_Ismail]

lol so he fights cotto after 4 years and pac after waiting 5 years and you think thats shutting people up? in any other sport that would be laughable. if a team beats the patriots in 5 years will that prove they are better than the patriots of last year? can't believe some fans are so clueless. floyd obviously waits for explosive fighters to slow down and flat out refuses to fight some like margarito. or in floyd fans minds...he made them eat their words! just took 5 years...of waiting

Sorry but ur argument is totally wrong, u can't compare individual sports to team sports, teams change players all the time, in boxing it's always the same player, in boxing u r as good as ur last fight, and if u look closely u can see that Floyd fought all his opponents right after they were coming off the best wins of their careers, maybe not Pacquiao, but all the rest of them were coming off big wins, ranked at least top 3 by the ring magazine and most of them had a significant age and size advantage, Ortiz is 10 years younger, Cotto is 4 years younger, Guerrero is 6 years younger, Canelo is 13 years younger and Maidana is 7 years younger. All these people outweighed him by 10 lbs or more on fight night too.

U can't prove any of ur statements on Floyd Mayweather refusing to fight anybody, before u start talking about Margarito look at what happened, Arum offered Mayweather a lame 8 million for a fight that was going to generate 30-40 million dollars, let's say 30, y would Mayweather get 8, Margarito get like 6, and Arum, who's not gonna get into the ring and fight, get 18 million dollars? Floyd was only asking for 11 mill, why did all the big fighters have problems with Arum once they reach a certain level of superstardom? it started with Dela Hoya, then Mayweather then Cotto and if Pacquiao's manager CONkz was really looking out for Pacquiao's best interest he would've done the same, Pacquiao doesn't need a promoter, he's already world famous, why pay Arum 30-40% of ur purse?

Now in hindsight when u look at Margarito's career and him being a cheater, but still u trash Mayweather for not fighting him, shows ur hatred for Floyd Mayweather, if it was anybody else who didn't fight Margarito u would've said good cuz if this other fighter would've lost it would be cuz of Margarito cheating, not cuz Margarito was the better fighter, we all saw what happened to Margarito after he got busted, on the same night he got his ass KOed by Mosley who was an underdog, he got destroyed by Pacquiao right after that, and he got stopped by Cotto, so with fair competition he always lost.

The Pacquiao fight didn't get made in 2009 due to several reasons, Pacquiao's REFUSAL to take the test, him turning down a career high of 40 mill (his biggest purse at the time was 8 mill), even though he was claiming to be this holy guy that doesn't fight for money, then Arum wanting to build a stadium, then Pacquiao getting KOed by Marquez and taking a year off then needing another year to get back to where he was so that the Mayweather fight could sell, and the list of reasons is pretty long.

Look at all sides and facts!

[Ahmed_Ismail]

Mayweather just waits too long for a good fight.
He sucker punches Ortiz as Floyd fans roar with excitement
He fights Guerrero god only knows why and his fans blow job the win
Floyd has carefully cherry picked his opponents and made fools of everyone

Guerrero was the interim WBC champion, he was the mandatory for Mayweather's WBC belt, he was ranked #3 welterweight in the world by the ring magazine and Floyd was coming off a year off, a jail sentence plus Guerrero had a 7 years age advantage with Floyd being 36 at the time, go back and look at the state of the welterweight division at this time and u will realize that Guerrero was the best possible option for Floyd, Pacquiao was still sleeping after the KO loss at the time btw.

Why do people critize Floyd fighting a guy like this but not Pacquiao for fighting a Rios, who wasn't ranked at 147 at all and coming off a loss to C level Alvarado? what about Bradley who was moving up from 140 lbs or Algieri who was also moving up in weight and his biggest win was a knockout drag out against Provodnikov who is a C level fighter himself?

Listen just cuz Guerrero and Ortiz's careers went down the drain AFTER the Mayweather fight cuz they got too comfortable with the payday, doesn't mean they were bad opponents AT THE TIME they fought Mayweather.

[Chuckguy]

Guerrero was the interim WBC champion, he was the mandatory for Mayweather's WBC belt, he was ranked #3 welterweight in the world by the ring magazine and Floyd was coming off a year off, a jail sentence plus Guerrero had a 7 years age advantage with Floyd being 36 at the time, go back and look at the state of the welterweight division at this time and u will realize that Guerrero was the best possible option for Floyd, Pacquiao was still sleeping after the KO loss at the time btw.

Why do people critize Floyd fighting a guy like this but not Pacquiao for fighting a Rios, who wasn't ranked at 147 at all and coming off a loss to C level Alvarado? what about Bradley who was moving up from 140 lbs or Algieri who was also moving up in weight and his biggest win was a knockout drag out against Provodnikov who is a C level fighter himself?

Listen just cuz Guerrero and Ortiz's careers went down the drain AFTER the Mayweather fight cuz they got too comfortable with the payday, doesn't mean they were bad opponents AT THE TIME they fought Mayweather.

Typical Floyd fan boy response. The sad thing is you can easily critique manny for his choice of opponents but always praise Floyd for his.
Fact is both have shi tty opponents difference is I'll criticize both not just one
This thread was about Floyd not manny

[Combat Talk Radio]

And no he wouldn't beat Williams or Margarito. Those guys have they're own advantages over Mayweather, and Mayweather is not one to let fighters come in with advantages over him, we've seen this many times. The advantages they have over him are that they are big welterweights, high volume punching, good chin, come forward, constant pressure, power. Yeah, he would of lost to both of these guys.

Margarito would have been outboxed. Way too slow.

Williams? Suspect chin as revealed by Sergio Martinez. Yes, I know Martinez was a power puncher, the thing is Bradley took a similar punch from Ruslan, a power puncher, and stayed on his feet. Mayweather took a hard lead from Maidana and stayed on his feet. I think Mayweather's punches wouldn't have KO'd Williams, but they would have knocked him loopy and after round 5, it'd just be a boxing clinic.

Guerrero was the interim WBC champion, he was the mandatory for Mayweather's WBC belt, he was ranked #3 welterweight in the world by the ring magazine and Floyd was coming off a year off, a jail sentence plus Guerrero had a 7 years age advantage with Floyd being 36 at the time, go back and look at the state of the welterweight division at this time and u will realize that Guerrero was the best possible option for Floyd, Pacquiao was still sleeping after the KO loss at the time btw.

Why do people critize Floyd fighting a guy like this but not Pacquiao for fighting a Rios, who wasn't ranked at 147 at all and coming off a loss to C level Alvarado? what about Bradley who was moving up from 140 lbs or Algieri who was also moving up in weight and his biggest win was a knockout drag out against Provodnikov who is a C level fighter himself?

Listen just cuz Guerrero and Ortiz's careers went down the drain AFTER the Mayweather fight cuz they got too comfortable with the payday, doesn't mean they were bad opponents AT THE TIME they fought Mayweather.

I'll tell you why.

People just want Floyd to lose and they want to see him face fighters that have a chance at beating him. Ortiz and Guerrero were not perceived as having even a remote chance. Thing is, I had Ortiz doing a lot better than Guerrero did against Floyd, until Ortiz tried to use a Holyfield strategy and got knocked out for his efforts.

Cotto was a tough fight for Floyd - he lost.
Judah was a tough fight for Floyd - he lost.
Mosley was a tough fight for Floyd - he lost.
De La Hoya was a tough fight for Floyd - he lost.

Pacquiao was a cakewalk for Floyd (for some Bizarre reason) - he lost.

It doesn't matter who the man fights. Even if he fought Golovkin and beat him, people would just say "the catchweight doe!"

[Wizardsh]

Floyd won't get the credit he truly deserves at least a decade after he retires. Trust me, we probably won't see another Floyd Mayweather for a long time, if ever. At least some of us fans can see that already and look past his personality and lifestyle to appreciate his boxing skills.

And he will never get credit because his resume is going to get picked apart, to many holes in his resume, to bad you can't handle the truth deal with it, may will for ever be another jack Johnson and nothing more

[Wizardsh]

Margarito would have been outboxed. Way too slow.

Williams? Suspect chin as revealed by Sergio Martinez. Yes, I know Martinez was a power puncher, the thing is Bradley took a similar punch from Ruslan, a power puncher, and stayed on his feet. Mayweather took a hard lead from Maidana and stayed on his feet. I think Mayweather's punches wouldn't have KO'd Williams, but they would have knocked him loopy and after round 5, it'd just be a boxing clinic.



I'll tell you why.

People just want Floyd to lose and they want to see him face fighters that have a chance at beating him. Ortiz and Guerrero were not perceived as having even a remote chance. Thing is, I had Ortiz doing a lot better than Guerrero did against Floyd, until Ortiz tried to use a Holyfield strategy and got knocked out for his efforts.

Cotto was a tough fight for Floyd - he lost.
Judah was a tough fight for Floyd - he lost.
Mosley was a tough fight for Floyd - he lost.
De La Hoya was a tough fight for Floyd - he lost.

Pacquiao was a cakewalk for Floyd (for some Bizarre reason) - he lost.

It doesn't matter who the man fights. Even if he fought Golovkin and beat him, people would just say "the catchweight doe!"

Really feel bad for you and "feel sorry for your mother"

[Ahmed_Ismail]

Typical Floyd fan boy response. The sad thing is you can easily critique manny for his choice of opponents but always praise Floyd for his.
Fact is both have shi tty opponents difference is I'll criticize both not just one
This thread was about Floyd not manny

u can't back up any of ur statements, how can u criticize a guy whose out of his last 11 opponents 8 where world champions coming off the biggest wins of their careers? Even the weakest 2 names he fought (Ortiz & Guerrero) were ranked #2 and #3 by the ring magazine with Ortiz being a champ and Guerrero being an interim champ and a mandatory, both of which were southpaws too, something that the Pacquiao fans used to prove their dumb theory that Mayweather didn't fight Pacquiao cuz Pacquiao was a southpaw.

How can u NOT criticize Pacquiao for his very low level of opposition, what are his biggest fights since 2008?, drained Dela Hoya, Cotto coming off a devastating TKO loss to Margarito where he got cut up b Margarito's loaded gloves? Ricky Hatton? Margarito coming off a KO loss to Mosley at a catchweight 4 pounds less than the weight he's fighting at? Mosley coming off a near shutout loss to Mayweather and a draw to Mora? Marquez was a good fght, I'll give him that, but he lost, Bradley? not ranked at 147 and moving up in weight? Marquez again, almost 40? KO loss? Rios? not ranked and coming off a loss, Bradley again? not so bad, Algieri?

be impartial, Pacquiao got away with this cuz he's a fan favorite, we all know the bar is set much higher for Floyd Mayweather than it is for Pacquiao, yet people compare the 2 and say they are on the same level. U judge greatness by how well a fighter did compared to others, and in this era Mayweather has surpassed everyone by a BIG margain, and even compared to fighters from the 70s and 80s, he still accomplished more, 25-0 in championship fights, 5 weight classes, 24 lbs, etc....

[Chuckguy]

u can't back up any of ur statements, how can u criticize a guy whose out of his last 11 opponents 8 where world champions coming off the biggest wins of their careers? Even the weakest 2 names he fought (Ortiz & Guerrero) were ranked #2 and #3 by the ring magazine with Ortiz being a champ and Guerrero being an interim champ and a mandatory, both of which were southpaws too, something that the Pacquiao fans used to prove their dumb theory that Mayweather didn't fight Pacquiao cuz Pacquiao was a southpaw.

How can u NOT criticize Pacquiao for his very low level of opposition, what are his biggest fights since 2008?, drained Dela Hoya, Cotto coming off a devastating TKO loss to Margarito where he got cut up b Margarito's loaded gloves? Ricky Hatton? Margarito coming off a KO loss to Mosley at a catchweight 4 pounds less than the weight he's fighting at? Mosley coming off a near shutout loss to Mayweather and a draw to Mora? Marquez was a good fght, I'll give him that, but he lost, Bradley? not ranked at 147 and moving up in weight? Marquez again, almost 40? KO loss? Rios? not ranked and coming off a loss, Bradley again? not so bad, Algieri?

be impartial, Pacquiao got away with this cuz he's a fan favorite, we all know the bar is set much higher for Floyd Mayweather than it is for Pacquiao, yet people compare the 2 and say they are on the same level. U judge greatness by how well a fighter did compared to others, and in this era Mayweather has surpassed everyone by a BIG margain, and even compared to fighters from the 70s and 80s, he still accomplished more, 25-0 in championship fights, 5 weight classes, 24 lbs, etc....

Floyd will never get credit for manny reasons and a big one is his persona
People love to hate him
I'll agree but don't come at me like u know me
I **** ted on PAC for Algeri
Rios was a tough choice because h just got knocked the fawk out

[big_james10]

lol so he fights cotto after 4 years and pac after waiting 5 years and you think thats shutting people up? in any other sport that would be laughable. if a team beats the patriots in 5 years will that prove they are better than the patriots of last year? can't believe some fans are so clueless. floyd obviously waits for explosive fighters to slow down and flat out refuses to fight some like margarito. or in floyd fans minds...he made them eat their words! just took 5 years...of waiting

Mosley turned down a Mayweather fight at 135. Cotto's team turned the fight down at 140. Pacquaio turned the fight down in 2010. Hatton's team turned down a fight with Mayweather at 140 and twice at 147. I know you are not as ****** as you sound, but you are doing your damnest to make everyone a believer.

[ADP02]

I said this years ago that if Floyd fights them, it will happen late.



Here is Floyd's own words:
Speaking with FightHype, Mayweather (47-0, 26 knockouts) says that the 36-year-old Filipino boxer Pacquiao (57-5-2, 38 KOs) has lost a step following his 2012 knockout loss to Juan Manuel Marquez.

“He may not be the same fighter, but this is a guy that I cannot overlook,”

“Once Alex Ariza left, he's a totally different fighter,” said Mayweather



Here is another interview with Floyd:
"I'm seeing something totally different in Pacquiao," Mayweather said.

Mayweather said he saw a much weaker Pacquiao April 12 in a decision win against Timothy Bradley than the one who stopped Miguel Cotto in the 12th round of a 2009 bout.

"I don't see the same pop in Pacquiao's shots -- me, myself, I don't see the same snap in his shots," Mayweather said before. "He's getting tired and he wasn't getting tired before. So, I mean, I'm seeing something totally different."