Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao To Get Tough Test in 2016 Return

[AllBoxingAD]

Damn, people still talking about that robbery of the century (fans getting robbed, that is).

I think there are a few things we can ALL agree on.. (or most of us anyway)

1.) Neither fighter was really impressive or "dominating" at any moment in the fight.
-pretty much a stalemate with each fighter having their moments
-INCONCLUSSIVE - DRAW -

2.) This was a close, technical fight. Many swing rounds went to Floyd by default simply because of his style. DEFENSIVE STYLES WILL GET THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT WHEN THERE IS LITTLE ACTION. Injuries/training/gameplan/condition doesn't matter at that point as the vast majority will just assume the "defensive genius" forced his opponent to fight that way, and TBH there MAY be some truth to that but the same applies to Manny's injury - both were likely a factor.

3.) NOBODY got "schooled", "dominated", etc. etc.
BOTH fighters disappointed. There was no "masterclass" or "boxing clinic" going on (tired of reading this $hit). FLOYD BARELY EDGED THE ROUNDS HE "WON". BOTH seemed to be fighting scared (one moreso than the other) because a simple mistake could easily result in a humiliating KD or KO.

4.) So much controversy about this fight, there should be a rematch.
If the "winner" is so confident in his abilities, a rematch should be a no brainer with the kind of $$$ they would make.. again. Opportunity to set things straight once and for all, why would anyone turn down a rematch??
It surely won't sell as well as the first, but at this point, this is about legacy - setting the record straight, and it is STILL the biggest money fight for BOTH guys, even after the outrage. I probably won't be paying to watch it, but I would be very much interested in seeing what happens.

Well no, obviously not everyone agrees with your points.

1) An overwhelming majority scored it for Floyd. The fight was anything but an inconclusive draw. Now if you scored it a draw thats you, and its fine, but why the hell would you think everyone agrees with YOUR score?

2) It was a technical fight. It wasnt close. Why were the rounds scored for Floyd? Because Floyd made #48 miss a ton of shots, while connecting at a much higher clip.

3) I dont care about calling it a schooling or anything else. Both fighters could have given alot more of themselves we agree there. It wasnt a crowd pleaser.

4) You are all over the place with this one. What controversy? Injuries happen in boxing, before and during fights. Its never made the outcome of said fights "controversial". Its laughable to think that the winner of the fight somehow needs a rematch to set things straight everytime the loser cries about an injury. Also, you want them to fight, but you dont wanna buy, but you are interested... make up your mind please.

[billfifty]

1.) Neither fighter was really impressive or "dominating" at any moment in the fight.
-pretty much a stalemate with each fighter having their moments
-INCONCLUSSIVE - DRAW -

2.) This was a close, technical fight. Many swing rounds went to Floyd by default simply because of his style. DEFENSIVE STYLES WILL GET THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT WHEN THERE IS LITTLE ACTION. Injuries/training/gameplan/condition doesn't matter at that point as the vast majority will just assume the "defensive genius" forced his opponent to fight that way, and TBH there MAY be some truth to that but the same applies to Manny's injury - both were likely a factor.

3.) NOBODY got "schooled", "dominated", etc. etc.
BOTH fighters disappointed. There was no "masterclass" or "boxing clinic" going on (tired of reading this *****). FLOYD BARELY EDGED THE ROUNDS HE "WON". BOTH seemed to be fighting scared (one moreso than the other) because a simple mistake could easily result in a humiliating KD or KO.

4.) So much controversy about this fight, there should be a rematch.
If the "winner" is so confident in his abilities, a rematch should be a no brainer with the kind of $$$ they would make.. again. Opportunity to set things straight once and for all, why would anyone turn down a rematch??
It surely won't sell as well as the first, but at this point, this is about legacy - setting th

Let's See:

1. Don't agree; Mayweather shutting down Pac offense was pretty impressive
2. Disagree again; I don't see that many swing round, the couple of rounds Pac won he landed punches.....the other rounds he wasn't landing anything.
3. Disagree once again.....Pac was giving a boxing lesson, especially in defense.
4. I think the public would trash a rematch.....really trash it....matter of fact, it probaly would hurt the sport because even the news channels would pick up the story and it would be all about how the first fight suck, both made a 100 mill, the public got screwed, and now they are trying to do it to us again.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Pacquiao/Bradley III is next for the Top Ran..i mean WBO welterweight championship.

I know you're joking. But honestly, Bradley is the fight that makes the most overall sense if they want to prove that Manny isn't washed up. I said before, if Bradley schools Manny in their rubber match, we'll ALL know that Manny needs to hang them up because he shouldn't lose that fight under any circumstances.

Personally I'd be ok with him facing Khan simply to answer the question - was Tim Lane really the reason Algieri got schooled by Manny (in which case Chris deserves a rematch under his current fight style) and that's why he performed so well against Khan, or is Khan really a B/C level fighter and got exposed as such?

(Before people say Chris doesn't deserve a rematch, let's not forget the first Holyfield/Lewis fight where Holyfield was getting schooled all night long. They had a rematch and Evander did WAY better the second time around.)

Was it that Chris was that good, or was it that Khan was that bad? I just don't know. Khan fighting Manny would answer that for me.

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by Scott-Weiland View Post
I want to see Floyd in fights where his opponents give it their all and don't come up with excuses after they've lost.

I guess hitting gloves and air while backpeddling and winning rounds by the Vegas-default scoring system is giving it Floyd's all?...

Careful, the Floydiots will soil their panties. Plus the uncontrollable sobbing and gnashing of teeth.
HA!

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Originally Posted by OutClassed View Post
good to hear that!!

basically you want pac to return to the easy fights to make him look good.GOD forbid the fake Christian lose another fight because another excuse in a loss with a fighter not name mayweather would really set pacs legacy.

The guy just said he basically wants Pac to take on a stiff challenge. Try a reading comprehension course. You'd be surprised at your improved reading skills afterwards.

And as for the 'fake Christian' line... I suppose you aren't aware of the concept, but humans are in fact fallible. It takes a real man (Pac) to admit their past mistakes, but then little insignificant pizzantz like you can't seem to appreciate that now can you little one? Grow up. We can't afford the daycare center anymore.

i know manny fans will defend him no matter what but is it not beyond strange they have not put out the mri from when he injured his shoulder and the second one after the fight? fighters always produce mri when an injury is in question i just find it beyond weird they have not produced it. if they would of put out both mri the demand for a rematch would be gigantic. i know fans of manny want to believe him but you got to admit it is shady they have not put out an mri. it honestly makes me think he didnt really injure himself. here is a picture of manny before the decision was read. Im sorry but if he had even half as bad an injury as they wanted people to believe he would not be able to do this after fighting or at all for that matter

You idiot. I have a severe rotator cuff injury and I can raise my arms most of the time. I just can't fight the self-proclaimed ATG with the injury and win, nor could Pac. Oh and BTW, did Floydie release his MRI for Castillo I fight?

[CJRock]

basically you want pac to return to the easy fights to make him look good.GOD forbid the fake Christian lose another fight because another excuse in a loss with a fighter not name mayweather would really set pacs legacy.

w
You forget that everyone & his dog KNOWS Mayweather lost to both Maidana & Castillo but Vegas/NSAC made sure Floyd still got the decisions
That's already screwed up Floyd's legacy

[ADP02]

Let's See:

1. Don't agree; Mayweather shutting down Pac offense was pretty impressive
2. Disagree again; I don't see that many swing round, the couple of rounds Pac won he landed punches.....the other rounds he wasn't landing anything.
3. Disagree once again.....Pac was giving a boxing lesson, especially in defense.
4. I think the public would trash a rematch.....really trash it....matter of fact, it probaly would hurt the sport because even the news channels would pick up the story and it would be all about how the first fight suck, both made a 100 mill, the public got screwed, and now they are trying to do it to us again.

1. Floyd required fouling to try to minimize Manny's offense. Without that, Manny gets in lots of more connects and basically this fight would have looked very very different.
Actually Manny was more impressive to me defensively. Manny was the shorter man with shorter reach and basically fought with one healthy arm. Plus not considered to be as good defensively yet also held Floyd to his least output ever. All this Manny did without having to resort to any fouls.

2. Lets analyze a few rounds and you will quickly change your mind. Lets start with ROUND #3 ...... GO!


3. Oh, so you think that Manny was giving Floyd a boxing lesson. Well, check out with my #1. I kinda agree with you on that. Manny's defense was impressive.


4. Floyd let the first fight suck. All the jokes were about Floyd hugging Manny. So I agree with you there.
While it will not generate the same kind of money, even if it generates less, it will still make lots of money.

[Chuckguy]

Well no, obviously not everyone agrees with your points.

1) An overwhelming majority scored it for Floyd. The fight was anything but an inconclusive draw. Now if you scored it a draw thats you, and its fine, but why the hell would you think everyone agrees with YOUR score?

2) It was a technical fight. It wasnt close. Why were the rounds scored for Floyd? Because Floyd made #48 miss a ton of shots, while connecting at a much higher clip.

3) I dont care about calling it a schooling or anything else. Both fighters could have given alot more of themselves we agree there. It wasnt a crowd pleaser.

4) You are all over the place with this one. What controversy? Injuries happen in boxing, before and during fights. Its never made the outcome of said fights "controversial". Its laughable to think that the winner of the fight somehow needs a rematch to set things straight everytime the loser cries about an injury. Also, you want them to fight, but you dont wanna buy, but you are interested... make up your mind please.

I chalenge you to say 3 negative things about Floyd in his career! You can't because in your eyes he is perfect in every way

[aboutfkntime]

Damn, people still talking about that robbery of the century (fans getting robbed, that is).

I think there are a few things we can ALL agree on.. (or most of us anyway)

1.) Neither fighter was really impressive or "dominating" at any moment in the fight.
-pretty much a stalemate with each fighter having their moments
-INCONCLUSSIVE - DRAW -

2.) This was a close, technical fight. Many swing rounds went to Floyd by default simply because of his style. DEFENSIVE STYLES WILL GET THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT WHEN THERE IS LITTLE ACTION. Injuries/training/gameplan/condition doesn't matter at that point as the vast majority will just assume the "defensive genius" forced his opponent to fight that way, and TBH there MAY be some truth to that but the same applies to Manny's injury - both were likely a factor.

3.) NOBODY got "schooled", "dominated", etc. etc.
BOTH fighters disappointed. There was no "masterclass" or "boxing clinic" going on (tired of reading this $hit). FLOYD BARELY EDGED THE ROUNDS HE "WON". BOTH seemed to be fighting scared (one moreso than the other) because a simple mistake could easily result in a humiliating KD or KO.

4.) So much controversy about this fight, there should be a rematch.
If the "winner" is so confident in his abilities, a rematch should be a no brainer with the kind of $$$ they would make.. again. Opportunity to set things straight once and for all, why would anyone turn down a rematch??
It surely won't sell as well as the first, but at this point, this is about legacy - setting the record straight, and it is STILL the biggest money fight for BOTH guys, even after the outrage. I probably won't be paying to watch it, but I would be very much interested in seeing what happens.

I feel the need to point something out.....

Firstly, before making the 4 points you listed above, you said this.....
" I think there are a few things we can ALL agree on "

WTF ?

Who were you referring to when you made that comment ?

Who is " ALL " ?

Because..... " ALL " sure as fcuk is not me.

You weren't speaking for me when you made that comment, were ya ?

I dont agree with a single thing you said, not one, so..... who is " ALL " ?

1) If you think that fight was a draw, you need to find a new hobby.

2) I saw nothing to suggest that Pacquiao was injured in that fight, nothing.

3) I agree that nobody dominated, but Mayweather proved that he is a class above Pacquiao in the ring.

4) there was no controversy regarding that fight. It was not controversial at all.... as Pac was not injured, or hampered by injury, in that fight.

[aboutfkntime]

w
You forget that everyone & his dog KNOWS Mayweather lost to both Maidana & Castillo but Vegas/NSAC made sure Floyd still got the decisions
That's already screwed up Floyd's legacy

Another asshat who uses the word " everybody " when referring to nobody.

For your information..... a small group of biased fanboys =/= everybody.

Everybody..... the BEASTwithin, and CJRock, DO NOT have permission to speak on my behalf.

WTF ?