Is Floyd Really Number 1?

[Left2body]

Aslo just wanted to add that when Eric Morales was coming off losses in both of his fights with Pacman. In the first fight with Pacman he was coming off a loss to Barrera and in the second fight he was coming off a loss to Zahir Raheem, however no one critcizes him for still fighting pacman or downgrades the signficance of those fights. But PBF gets criticized for not fighting top fighters because Zab is coming off a loss. Please guys be consistent and not hipocrits.

[.::EnRiQuE::.]

Aslo just wanted to add that when Eric Morales was coming off losses in both of his fights with Pacman. In the first fight with Pacman he was coming off a loss to Barrera and in the second fight he was coming off a loss to Zahir Raheem, however no one critcizes him for still fighting pacman or downgrades the signficance of those fights. But PBF gets criticized for not fighting top fighters because Zab is coming off a loss. Please guys be consistent and not hipocrits.

i dont care that he is fighting Zab. i personally think Zab is a good fighter. you just never know which Zab is gonna show up. it could be the one who fought Baldy or the one who destroyed Spinx. i think ppl downplay PBF fighting Zab because Zab lost to sum1 dat mots have never heard of before that fight. At least MOrales lost to MAB(great fighter) and Raheem(well known skilled figher). DAt and alotta ppl are just Zab Haters

[Left2body]

Note that you did not point out anything that PBF has done recently to deserve #1 p4p ranking. and yes PBF beat Castillo(the 2nd time) and beat Corrales, but both of those fights were a while ago. the Corrales fight was in 2001 and the castillo fights were in 2002, ever since he hasnt really fought the BEST opposition

True however the Castillo 2 was in December of 2002 very near 2003. He has been coming up in weight since then. Demarcus Corley is a good solid competition especially if you are coming up in weight. Brussels not so much. However Gotti is another solid B fighter but it is still up in weight. He has been coming up in weight for but has still fought solid fighters, however not elite. Mitchell, Gotti (is an exception because he was a big money fight), Corley, Sosa.

However more importantly if you take out Gotti you can see a linear line of level of competition in these new weights. He is clearly stepping up his level of competition at a New Weight. Zab is very dangerous and I will reiterate if he had not lost vs Baldomir it would be marketed as a mega fight.

Yes, PBF could've fought tougher opponents at 140 and 147 but he could've also stayed at 135lb and continued dominated everyone.

[K-DOGG]

If he's #1, then he's just barely clinging to it. As some have pointed out, he's clearly 1-1 with Castillo, and really his only recent big win you can point to other than that is Corrales, years ago.

He's not fought the best or won the true title at 140 or 147. So he's looking good, sure, but not fighting the best.

The #1 p4p ranking is CLEARLY there to be taken from him with a win by Taylor -and even Wright with a brilliant performance. Why? Because they are clearly the best at their weights. Floyd hasn't fought the best at his weight in 3 years. This will be the 3rd time in as many fights that Taylor has fought the best in his. Floyd has lately been a showcase fighter and not a champion.

NICE!!! Well Said!!

[eazy_mas]

Mayweather is the 1 P$P fighter.

He beat many greates in boxing. If he is not the best then the guys he won over are bad and that is not true most of Mayweather oppenets are top of game fighters.

Its really rare to see someone beat many of boxing greats in one fighter e****ally today.

1- Castillo x2
2- Corrales
3- Corely
4- Ndou
5- Shamba Mitchell
6- Emuanl Agustus
7- Jesus Chavez
8- Aruto Gatti
9- Sosa
10- Hernandez
11- Angel Manfredy

Maybe Zab Judah is next. What more could you ask for with a list of fighter like that?

And He take every of his fight very serouisly so there is no doubt he going to screw any of his fight like Zab does

[kallsop]

Yes, PBF could've fought tougher opponents at 140 and 147 but he could've also stayed at 135lb and continued dominated everyone.

Floyd is 29 and maybe outgrew those lower weights, especially 135. I'm not convinced he is best at 147, but I have a hard timer seeing him at 135 now.

If his next 3 years are like his last 3, he will have wasted his talent. Great fighters are remembered for being in great fights, not for the meaningless P4P ranking. RJJ is gone already, and soon forgotten because his most memorable fights are end of career losses. That's his fault for taking prime fights against policemen and garbage collectors.

PBF is still young enough to create a legacy of wins against the best out there. Fans should drop him down the P4P and demand he earns his place by fighting the best. You get more of the behavior you reward, and PBF apparently is content to fight B level and collect HBO $$$.

I assume we all want the same thing - great fights. It's no fault of PBF's that Zab is a bum and lost to exceptionally average Baldomir, but that's only one fight. What about the last 3 years?

[.::EnRiQuE::.]

Floyd is 29 and maybe outgrew those lower weights, especially 135. I'm not convinced he is best at 147, but I have a hard timer seeing him at 135 now.

If his next 3 years are like his last 3, he will have wasted his talent. Great fighters are remembered for being in great fights, not for the meaningless P4P ranking. RJJ is gone already, and soon forgotten because his most memorable fights are end of career losses. That's his fault for taking prime fights against policemen and garbage collectors.

PBF is still young enough to create a legacy of wins against the best out there. Fans should drop him down the P4P and demand he earns his place by fighting the best. You get more of the behavior you reward, and PBF apparently is content to fight B level and collect HBO $$$.

I assume we all want the same thing - great fights. It's no fault of PBF's that Zab is a bum and lost to exceptionally average Baldomir, but that's only one fight. What about the last 3 years?

i completely agree. to be top P4P fighter you should fight top opposition...not B level fighters. im not sayin all of his fights have to be megafights, but its has been so long since he has been in a megafight. PBF#1...i think not. there are other fighters who of lately have accomplished mroe than Mayweather(not careerwise, just in recent years)

[Left2body]

i completely agree. to be top P4P fighter you should fight top opposition...not B level fighters. im not sayin all of his fights have to be megafights, but its has been so long since he has been in a megafight. PBF#1...i think not. there are other fighters who of lately have accomplished mroe than Mayweather(not careerwise, just in recent years)

I see your point and agree with you whole heartedly in hoping he doesnt waist his talent on B-Level fighters it would be a waste of talent. I also see your point in ranking Pacman as P4P if you qualify it as recent years and if that was the criteria I would agree with you. I also stand believe that (if you take Gotti fight out) he has shown a clear pattern of stepping up in competition. I believe (and HOPE) Zab was suppose to be the first of set of fights versus the elite welters and jr welters.

I just hope the odus is not place squarely on PBF shoulders in these weights and pray that the other elites seek each other out aswell. I also think that the other elites fighting each other would be even more entertaining that them fighting PBF due to Castillo's, Hatton's and Cotto's fighting styles.