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  • i'm a fun haver
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    #111
    Originally posted by icha
    you replied to me but couldnt argue any of my points...
    What points? lol
    What points were you trying to make with that incoherent garbage?
    If GGG was fighting at 168, Canelo and Cotto would be fighting at 160.
    If either one of them want to step up and fight GGG, I'm sure they'll want some kind of b*tchass catchweight.
    GGG and Canelo are the same size on fight night. GGG fights in a real weight class. Cotto holds the lineal title in that weight class, but GGG is supposedly too big for Cotto but weight cutting Canelo is not lol.
    Just tell the truth and say you think GGG is too good for these guys and you think he needs to move up in weight.
    I'd at least respect your honesty.

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      #112
      Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS
      When was the last time Ward and Froch moved up a weight class again?
      Froch has fought his entire career at 14 stone; quite impressive.

      Andre Ward debuted at 160 (where he fought his the bulk of those fights at 160, with all ten of those fights being at/below 165) for 10 fights, fighting 15 of the remaining 18 fights at below 168lbs+1, and seems to be heading to 175 within the next 1-2 years.

      all within a couple years past a decade.

      Come Spring next year, Golovkin would've spent an entire decade as a professional at 160, would be another 12-16 months away from his "goal of unifying the belts in the division", by which he'd be 35-36 years old, still fighting lighter than he was fighting at 21 (same day weigh-in aside)

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        #113
        Originally posted by b00g13man
        I'm a Ward fan and want him to move up. Now what? Why don't you want GGG to move up and face the top guy?
        Tell David Itskowich to **** can the rest of Ward's tune ups and pony up that PPV money lol

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          #114
          Does this mean Canelo needs to skip 160 completely and move up to 168 like GGG? You know, since 160 is supposedly so weak lol
          Both the same size on fight night

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            #115
            Originally posted by i'm a fun haver
            Tell David Itskowich to **** can the rest of Ward's tune ups and pony up that PPV money lol
            So it's down to the "financials" again. Got it.

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              #116
              Originally posted by b00g13man
              So it's down to the "financials" again. Got it.
              You think they're going to fight for free?
              How much money do you think Ward will want for that fight?
              Last edited by i'm a fun haver; 06-29-2015, 09:14 PM.

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                #117
                Golovkin makes 160 comfortably and has every right to stay there as long as he wants. But if he isn't getting the money/opposition he wants then it's up to him to seek higher weight challenges. But some of the double standards with Andre Ward here are head spinning.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by LarryXXX
                  Why are GGG fans so fearful about him moving up in weight? Ya'll scream that he is this monster and GGG himself says he beats anyone at 168 so whats the problem?
                  Money is at 160, right now, he's in line to get Canelo Cotto winner.

                  If he goes to 168 now, My advice for GGG would be to fire his managers, it would be extremely foolish after all this work at 160.

                  Makes zero sense. With a shot like that being around the corner.

                  If you don't see it, you're simply a hater bruh.

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                  • Scipio2009
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by glenn mcrory
                    And there goes your argument.
                    What you need is some eyewear.
                    If Golovkin classifies as an unproven, smoke and mirrors hypejob than so does Spence.
                    ErrLOL "Mr. gym tales" Spence
                    First, nothing in this post even said anything about classifying Golovkin as an "unproven, smoke and mirrors hypejob". If you have that on your heart, there's no need to deflect that on someone else.

                    Secondly, it is of my opinion that Golovkin will likely fight his entire career at middleweight because he wouldn't be seen as a special fighter at 168. Ward and Froch both wreck him, he doesn't hit anywhere near hard enough to discourage Chavez Jr/Abraham/Steiglitz, and he gets hit flush and often enough that Degale/Dirrell both beat him pretty comfortably (assuming Andre Dirrell comes mentally ready to box). Beyond that, no one knows how Golovkin is going to react when an opponent doesn't retreat, let alone land a heavy shot on him.

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                    • icha
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by i'm a fun haver
                      What points? lol
                      What points were you trying to make with that incoherent garbage?

                      If GGG was fighting at 168, Canelo and Cotto would be fighting at 160.
                      If either one of them want to step up and fight GGG, I'm sure they'll want some kind of b*tchass catchweight.
                      GGG and Canelo are the same size on fight night. GGG fights in a real weight class. Cotto holds the lineal title in that weight class, but GGG is supposedly too big for Cotto but weight cutting Canelo is not lol.
                      Just tell the truth and say you think GGG is too good for these guys and you think he needs to move up in weight.
                      I'd at least respect your honesty.
                      1.- fight night weight is not in effect anymore...
                      2.- there are no rules vs non-ttle fights taking place 1 lb over the limit..
                      3.- ggg is being selective when it comes to going down in weight...

                      And by the way i said this long time ago, GGG doesnt necessarily needs to go up in weight to get better fights, he can also go down, plenty of skilled people at 154 compared to 160... if ggg goes down to 154 and the likes of canelo, lara, andrade, floyd, etc dont fight him then i will call that a duck... ggg shouldnt have a problem going to 154 after all they all(except floyd) weight the same on fight night...
                      but i get it ggg wants to unify before moving to a different division, nothing wrong with that but imo he wont get better fights doing it...

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