Golovkin weight

[glenn mcrory]

He was fighting at 165 by the time he was 21 years old; even with the extended amateur career, the fact that he hasn't moved up in a decade is a bit odd (him campaigning 5 pounds below that is another point of contention).

Beyond that, the whole "he turned pro later than most top fighters" doesn't hold water when you look and see that Errol Spence Jr debuted at the very same age that Golovkin did and, when all things are said and done, Spence will likely end up winning titles at 147, 154, and 160 by the time he gets to his 30's (like some other people, I believe that Spence is "The Truth").

And there goes your argument.
What you need is some eyewear.
If Golovkin classifies as an unproven, smoke and mirrors hypejob than so does Spence.
ErrLOL "Mr. gym tales" Spence

[ИATAS]

Its a really weird way to try and diss a boxer. Well, he's too good for the division he's in, no one can beat him, so lets demand he moves up in weight!

Which is weird because no one was demanding Froch & Ward move up in weight, or many other guys, Rigondeaux another example or other guys who spent their whole careers in a weight class despite only a few pound difference, like Shinsuke Yamanaka, Juan Estrada, guys like that, there are so many fighters who stay in one division the examples are endless I seriously wonder how much of the sport the majority of NSB really watches. Seems like most people here just know the big names - Floyd, Pac, Canelo, Cotto, and a few other guys. There are literally hundreds of examples of fighters who spent their whole careers in one weight class. What a truly bizarre argument.

It's all people got though. For whatever reason they don't like the attention Golovkin is receiving, so they reach for ways to try and discredit him. They obviously can't come up with any fighters that can beat him in his division so they gotta go north a weight class, the Gold Medalist former #2 pound4pound fighter in the world is their new savoir.

[Scipio2009]

Jesus, read the thread. Amateur boxing is different than pro boxing. They weigh you just about every day. There is no 24-hour before the fight weigh-in, it's same day, every day. Middleweight in the amateurs is 165. There is no 160 pound division. The weight classes are all a bit off because it's same day weigh in. Just like Ward fought at 178 pounds as an amateur (which is light heavyweight).



-Shawn Porter. Started his pro career at 165 pounds. Now he's 147. He actually went in reverse to what you say.
-Tim Bradley at age 21 lost the 2004 United States Olympic Trials at 152 lbs, against Vanes Martirosyan. He then turned pro and fought at 140 pounds for years.
-Andre Ward. Was fighting at 178 pounds, won gold there. Turned pro at 168 and stayed there for years and years.
-Carl Froch. Has fought exclusively at 168 pounds (besides his first 9 fights in which he weighed a tad over 170 pounds).

It's actually pretty common man, guys often go down when turning pro because of the same day weigh ins in the amateurs.



Why hasn't Carl Froch moved up again? Why hasn't Ward? Why hasn't Porter moved up instead of down? Perhaps there are weight classes for a reason.

12 years at the same weight, below what he fought as an amateur (with the apparent "right before the fight" rules that have magically popped up on this site) is a bit much (Carl Froch basically fighting his entire career at 12 stone is pretty impressive):

-Shawn Porter being a football player (was an all-conference player during his junior and senior years in high school, dovetailing directly with the effort to make the 2008 Olympic team) had more to do with that than anything. Beyond that, Porter fought a single fight at 165, dropping down to 154 within a year of committing full-time to only boxing.

-Timothy Bradley has now been fighting at 147 for about as long as he fought at 140; actually looking at his fights (thanks to the updated BoxRec), Bradley has fought 15 of his 34 fights north of 140lbs +1.

-Andre Ward fought the light heavyweight division at 172lbs, fighting out of division to get Andre Dirrell a chance to win a medal. Beyond that, Ward debuted at 160, not 168.

Just imagine what would've been said if Andre Ward, after winning the US national title at 165 in 2001, was still trying to fight at 160 by 2013. Shawn Porter, within two years of being a full time boxer, was fighting at 147; if Shawn Porter is still fighting 147 five years from now, people would look upon that as quite odd.

[icha]

GGG is actually fighting at MW, unlike Canelo(who supposedly isn't too big for Cotto lol) who drains himself to 155lbs and weighs 173lbs on fight night.
One weight class is 168. Ward's last fight was at 172 lol.
Remember when GGG signed the contract to fight Chavez Jr at 168? Remember when he was going to go to the UK to fight Froch at 168?

Ward wasn't fighting anyone when GGG was going to fight Chavez Jr and Ward is fighting tune ups now when GGG is willing to fight Froch.
Ward doesn't even know if he will fight at 168.
It's not defending anyone. You should already know these things, dip**** lol

you should know that fight night weight hasnt been on effect for decades, most jmws rehydrate over 170 ...
you should also know that there are no rules against non-title fights taking place 1 lb over the limit...
with that being said, ggg can go for canelo at 154-155 if he wants, since they are the same size(as many of you claim), but unfortunately for his fans he is being selective and will only do it for floyd...
canelo is no ppv doe, no money doe..

[i'm a fun haver]

12 years at the same weight, below what he fought as an amateur (with the apparent "right before the fight" rules that have magically popped up on this site) is a bit much (Carl Froch basically fighting his entire career at 12 stone is pretty impressive):

-Shawn Porter being a football player (was an all-conference player during his junior and senior years in high school, dovetailing directly with the effort to make the 2008 Olympic team) had more to do with that than anything. Beyond that, Porter fought a single fight at 165, dropping down to 154 within a year of committing full-time to only boxing.

-Timothy Bradley has now been fighting at 147 for about as long as he fought at 140; actually looking at his fights (thanks to the updated BoxRec), Bradley has fought 15 of his 34 fights north of 140lbs +1.

-Andre Ward fought the light heavyweight division at 172lbs, fighting out of division to get Andre Dirrell a chance to win a medal. Beyond that, Ward debuted at 160, not 168.

Just imagine what would've been said if Andre Ward, after winning the US national title at 165 in 2001, was still trying to fight at 160 by 2013. Shawn Porter, within two years of being a full time boxer, was fighting at 147; if Shawn Porter is still fighting 147 five years from now, people would look upon that as quite odd.

You think Ward wouldn't fight at 160 for the size advantage if he could make that weight? lol

[i'm a fun haver]

you should know that fight night weight hasnt been on effect for decades, most jmws rehydrate over 170 ...
you should also know that there are no rules against non-title fights taking place 1 lb over the limit...
with that being said, ggg can go for canelo at 154-155 if he wants, since they are the same size(as many of you claim), but unfortunately for his fans he is being selective and will only do it for floyd...
canelo is no ppv doe, no money doe..

Put the booze down and don't come back till you're coherent lol
Canelo will continue to drain himself as long as possible so he won't have to fight at 160.
He knows what's waiting for him at 160

[Robbie Barrett]

Its a really weird way to try and diss a boxer. Well, he's too good for the division he's in, no one can beat him, so lets demand he moves up in weight!

Which is weird because no one was demanding Froch & Ward move up in weight, or many other guys, Rigondeaux another example or other guys who spent their whole careers in a weight class despite only a few pound difference, like Shinsuke Yamanaka, Juan Estrada, guys like that, there are so many fighters who stay in one division the examples are endless I seriously wonder how much of the sport the majority of NSB really watches. Seems like most people here just know the big names - Floyd, Pac, Canelo, Cotto, and a few other guys. There are literally hundreds of examples of fighters who spent their whole careers in one weight class. What a truly bizarre argument.

It's all people got though. For whatever reason they don't like the attention Golovkin is receiving, so they reach for ways to try and discredit him. They obviously can't come up with any fighters that can beat him in his division so they gotta go north a weight class, the Gold Medalist former #2 pound4pound fighter in the world is their new savoir.

Golovkin fans keep saying he'd beat Ward. Same people make excuses for him when others want to see him try.

[Hype job]

Ward hasn't moved up since turning pro and he supposedly cleaned his division out so why are you guys so hesitant for him to move up?

[icha]

Put the booze down and don't come back till you're coherent lol
Canelo will continue to drain himself as long as possible so he won't have to fight at 160.
He knows what's waiting for him at 160

you replied to me but couldnt argue any of my points...

[b00g13man]

Why don't Ward fans ask for him to go up a weight class and challenge the top guy?

I'm a Ward fan and want him to move up. Now what? Why don't you want GGG to move up and face the top guy?