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  • SplitSecond
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    #81
    Originally posted by radioraheem
    USADA has already went on record denying they knew about an injury. They never said anything abotu 'unspecified shoulder injury.' Read the following quotes below from BS articles. And then tell me again how USADA knew about the injury.
    You're quotes are also in this article: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...houlder-injury
    Tygart said his agency, which was hired by promoters to oversee drug testing for the bout, was contacted April 7 asking about the use of various substances and whether they were allowed under anti-doping rules. He said there was another call 10 days later asking about using a different substance, again for what the USADA was told was an unspecified shoulder problem.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #82
      Originally posted by SplitSecond
      I should have said, it actually read more like "again for what was an unspecified shoulder injury"(paraphrasing)

      USADA apparently twice talked with Pacquiao's doctor before confirming the treatments were allowed. I'm guessing it happened over the phone if they didn't collect any papers.

      Or could simply be because he didn't want the fight to be stopped, considering the money, how close the fight was and fighters tendencies to fight with injuries.
      so that suggests they were turned down because they had no proof so they tried again. I mean come on dude what has to happen before you admit this doesn't look legit?

      I get you are a Manny fan but please stop trying to make all the lying virtuous on Pac's part.

      Just too many inconsistencies. he lost for BOXING reasons not HEALTH reasons.

      I get the outcome wasn't what you wanted or expected.

      Come on dude, this is the same dude that cheats on his wife with hookers and is a politician. WHy are you givng him the benefit of the doubt?????

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      • SplitSecond
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        #83
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        so that suggests they were turned down because they had no proof so they tried again. I mean come on dude what has to happen before you admit this doesn't look legit?

        I get you are a Manny fan but please stop trying to make all the lying virtuous on Pac's part.

        Just too many inconsistencies. he lost for BOXING reasons not HEALTH reasons.

        I get the outcome wasn't what you wanted or expected.

        Come on dude, this is the same dude that cheats on his wife with hookers and is a politician. WHy are you givng him the benefit of the doubt?????
        What are you talking about? They asked for drugs the first time, then the second time they asked for "one" other(probabley the Toradol). How were they turned down?

        Only turned down on fight day because Pacquiao didn't tick the box for w/e reason.

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        • radioraheem
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          #84
          Originally posted by SplitSecond
          You're quotes are also in this article: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...houlder-injury
          The ESPN article is inaccurate. The NY News broke the story originally and originally spoke with USADA.

          Manny Pacquiao’s camp has greater worries than the lingering sting of the Filipino welterweight’s loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr. in Las Vegas Saturday, and it could come in the form of pr…


          And if you look up other sources, like:



          They also use the Associated Press article, and it clearly says USADA was not aware of what the meds were for.

          Sources told The News, however, that Pacquiao's camp never informed USADA of the boxer's shoulder injury, and that the two calls his camp made to USADA prior to the fight were inquiries into whether certain substances Pacquiao was considering using were prohibited or not.
          Tygart said his agency, which was hired by promoters to oversee drug testing for the bout, was contacted April 7 asking about the use of various substances and whether they were allowed under anti-doping rules. He said there was another call 10 days later asking about using a different substance, but that USADA was not told exactly what the treatments were for.

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          • SplitSecond
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            #85
            Originally posted by radioraheem
            The ESPN article is inaccurate. The NY News broke the story originally and originally spoke with USADA.

            Manny Pacquiao’s camp has greater worries than the lingering sting of the Filipino welterweight’s loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr. in Las Vegas Saturday, and it could come in the form of pr…


            And if you look up other sources, like:



            They also use the Associated Press article, and it clearly says USADA was not aware of what the meds were for.
            Besides the "sources" which who knows that told the news, huffingtonpost is the only site I saw that worded it like it did, and even then it uses the word "exactly", which makes it basically same thing I posted. I think that one has more probability of being innacurate.

            Yahoo was right ontop of this, they were the ones that approached the commission and brought up the question in the post-fight conference and they posted the same thing I posted.
            Last edited by SplitSecond; 06-24-2015, 04:04 PM.

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            • Scipio2009
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              #86
              Originally posted by Mike D
              Actually he's made a lot more than that even

              Paulie would have to fight literally 280 fights in a row at the purses he gets now to get into the neighborhood of what Pacquiao got on May 2nd
              .... If Pacquiao actually got his full take, that is.

              Top Rank will take their own 30% to a third take off of their share of the 60/40 split, Top Rank will reimburse themselves for the advances that they paid to Pacquiao (who was rumored to have traveled with 300 people for this full camp, notwithstanding paying countless money to have his horde in the MGM with him), and then they will reimburse themselves for the $25m check on fight night.

              would slow that up a bit, lol. Paulie hasn't made super duper money, but the guy seems to have, relatively quietly, been able to pocket north of $5m in fight purses over his career, with the likelihood of picking up another $1m for the Garcia fight.

              You're reaching, but that's not new.

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                #87
                Originally posted by hitking
                Paulie raises valid points. Fight night, the story was Manny was denied a prefight anti-inflammatory shot for a preexisting injury. That excuse seems to have faded to black.
                Paulie appears to be out of favour with a lot of people at NSB but the guy tells it how he sees it and let's not forget that guys like him, on the "inside", often have knowledge about what is really going on in those gyms.

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                • radioraheem
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by SplitSecond
                  Besides the "sources" which who knows that told the news, huffingtonpost is the only site I saw that worded it like it did, and even then it uses the word "exactly", which makes it basically same thing I posted. I think that one has more probability of being innacurate.

                  Yahoo was right ontop of this, they were the ones that approached the commission and brought up the question in the post-fight conference and they posted the same thing I posted.
                  Please stop making up stories and lies. Many other sites used the same Associated Press source, including Boxing Scene, and even BS didn't inaccurately rephrase the original AP source to say 'unspecified shoulder injury.'

                  Yahoo was not the ones who broke the story by the way. And please show me the Yahoo article sourcing the Associated Press that clearly says USADA knew about the injury. It was the NY Daily News who originally spoke directly with USADA about the matter by the way. USADA was not told what the treatments were for, and USADA also denied knowing about the injury whatsoever. USADA also elaborated further and went on record also saying that had no documentation regarding an injury.

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                  • invertebrae
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                    #89
                    But didn't the NSAC confirm that Team Pacquiao requested an anti-inflammatory injection on his shoulder BEFORE the fight? That to me at least says he had some issues going into the ring.

                    I am not saying Manny beats Floyd without the aggravated shoulder, but there were some close rounds that do make it an interesting enough proposition to contemplate a rematch.

                    To anyone saying Manny was a "bum" they are simply haters. Manny put up a strong fight against a great boxer, and had Floyd hurt at one point in the fight. By no means was Pacquiao "schooled" in that ring, that's just not true.

                    Floyd definitely won the fight, but it was not a runaway victory. The biggest problem was not Manny's shoulder; it was the fact that their styles didn't make for an interesting evening of boxing. Would that change with a rematch? Unlikely, but hey you never know, and I think that's what both sides are banking on.

                    My two cents.

                    ...ryan

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                    • Xi_
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                      #90
                      i hope paulie continues to expose this pu$$y......all we've heard from team #48 and his f@99ot fans since may 2nd are excuses......weak excuses at that. may 2nd was the greatest day in the history of the sport imo. floyd exposed #48 as a pu$$y/fraud.

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