Originally posted by Barcham
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Will Cotto's cowardice and the WBC's corruption prevent GGG from unifying 160?
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Will GGG ever fight a worthy opponent other than little Cotto so as to justify the GGG groupie love around here?
Questions... So many.
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Originally posted by soul_survivor View PostCotto and Canelo will probably be for the WBC mw title and once Cotto wins that, I guess he will drop the belt or the Mayweather rematch might happen in September. Anyway, both those fights require the WBC 160lb title. After that's done, Cotto will say "I'm not a mw) and move back down or retire.WBO has ruled that #BradleyVargas is for the vacant interim 147 title. Floyd has until 7/3 to vacate 154 belts to keep WBO 147.
— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn) June 22, 2015
one scenario I see happening is floyd dropping the 154 lbs titles, keeping the WBO belt, Cotto vacates the 160 lbs strap and fights Canelo for the WBC 154 lbs title. Floyd can fight winner of Cotto-Canelo for his 50th fight maybe
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Originally posted by Barcham View PostCotto will never fight GGG and neither he nor Canelo will sign the agreement that GGG requires so that their fight can be for the MW title. As a result WBC will strip Cotto of the title before he fights Canelo but it will not be because WBC is honorable, it will be because Golovkin has forced them into a situation where they have no choice.
If Cotto intended to fight Golovkin after the Canelo fight, he would have no problems at all signing an agreement to that effect.
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Funny that up to now I haven't heard a single convincing argument as to how cotto would be able to beat ggg. Cotto can't out box ggg,because he'd get taken to the ropes and mauled,and he can't slug it out with ggg,because the fight would be 1 round,and it would end with cotto on his knees. Ggg has the height,weight,reach,youth,and power advantage on cotto,and I'd honestly be surprised if cotto sees the 6th round. All in hearing is "cottos resume" and "cottos the a side", but the truth is that cottos resume,and his side in the negotiations won't mean **** when he's in the ring with ggg. Ggg beats him worse than Margarito did,and the best part is that he doesn't need plaster to do it. Love it or hate it,its the truth,so let cotto do his little thing with canelo,and then he can just vacate the belt,and ggg can take what is rightfully his.
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Only a Coward would call Cotto a Coward. Cotto is a straight M.O.F as a fighter. His record speaks for himself and hes fighting Canelo next, another fight lots of people have been looking forward to and a risky fight as well.
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Originally posted by mike1010011 View PostFunny that up to now I haven't heard a single convincing argument as to how cotto would be able to beat ggg. Cotto can't out box ggg,because he'd get taken to the ropes and mauled,and he can't slug it out with ggg,because the fight would be 1 round,and it would end with cotto on his knees. Ggg has the height,weight,reach,youth,and power advantage on cotto,and I'd honestly be surprised if cotto sees the 6th round. All in hearing is "cottos resume" and "cottos the a side", but the truth is that cottos resume,and his side in the negotiations won't mean **** when he's in the ring with ggg. Ggg beats him worse than Margarito did,and the best part is that he doesn't need plaster to do it. Love it or hate it,its the truth,so let cotto do his little thing with canelo,and then he can just vacate the belt,and ggg can take what is rightfully his.
and I quote myself:
"When Cotto vs GGG gets made all boxingscene posters will forget yall were calling him a coward, diva, chicken.... and ur new threads will be:"cotto will get killed by GGG"
thanks for proving me right.... first call him a coward then say he has no chance....classic
Which one is it? because whether he wins or not is a different topic.
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Originally posted by soul_survivor View PostCotto and Canelo will probably be for the WBC mw title and once Cotto wins that, I guess he will drop the belt or the Mayweather rematch might happen in September. Anyway, both those fights require the WBC 160lb title. After that's done, Cotto will say "I'm not a mw) and move back down or retire.Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View PostWhile there is a Canelo fight and a possible Floyd fight the WBC will continue not to enforce the mandatory status that triple G has. They will collect more sanctioning fees from those two than from 3GOriginally posted by MDPopescu View Post... It ain't over until the fat lady sings... WBC is resourceful, various things may happen -- like, for instance, Cotto getting the Floyd rematch at 155.
WBC has no say in the matter. If Golovkin does not step aside, Cotto must be stripped of his title before his next fight. That means no MW title fight between Cotto and Canelo or Cotto and Mayweather or Cotto and whatever fighter you can think of who is not named Gennady Golovkin. WBC can have the tongue removed from every fat lady on the planet to keep them from singing and it makes no difference. Golovkin is the one calling the tune on this one.
People really have to understand that Golovkin's mandatory status and his interim title are considered to be contracts under the law. WBC cannot break that contract by itself and GGG could go to court for an injunction to prevent any fight from being sanctioned for the MW title as long as he retains his mandatory status. This has happened in the past and almost caused the collapse of the WBC.
I do not believe they want to go through that again. Cotto will be stripped, or as I believe, he will vacate the MW title in exchange for the Canelo fight being sanctioned for the 154 title that Floyd will be vacating, or the interim 154 title if necessary.
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