When will you give Brook the respect he deserves?

[MRBOOMER]

Since IBF champ and #1 Welterweight Kell Brook beat Shawn Porter 117-111 or 116-112, people have been saying Porter is just average and it wasn't nothing special.

This of course comes primarily from deluded Amir 'chin' Khan fans who are looking for every excuse in the book as to why Brook doesn't 'deserve' Khan (lol, cringe).

But some people were also saying before Porter fought Brook that he didn't stand a chance and that Porter would be competitive with Mayweather.. Hell, some even picked him to beat Mayweaher *cough* New England *cough*. Some of those same people turned around and said Porter was just average after Brook mastered him.

Now some people are talking about Porter fighting Mayweather in September smh. What about Brook? He showed the difference between a strong welterweight with skill, balance, movement and and a strong inside game and someone like Adrien Broner tonight. And Porter for that matter.

People, when will you start paying Kell Brook the respect he deserves? He's clearly on another level to these supposed top 10 guys like Porter, Khan, Guerrero, Maidana and Broner for that matter - or whoever you want to mention that's fought Mayweather or might fight him.

Because he held all night in that fight. It was a close fight. He only beat 1 good fighter when he beats two or three other name high ranked fighters then he'll get respect we don't even know if he can really take a hard punch. Seeing as how Porter is no big puncher.

[LacedUp]

Because he held all night in that fight. It was a close fight. He only beat 1 good fighter when he beats two or three other name high ranked fighters then he'll get respect we don't even know if he can really take a hard punch. Seeing as how Porter is no big puncher.

But it wasn't really close. He won with 5 rounds on one card and 4 on the other. the british judge was obviously sleeping.

There's no way you can make a case for Porter winning the fight, he didn't land 3 clean punches all night.

From a tweet last night.

"before Brook, Porter = beast. After Brook, Porter = Bum. Before Broner, Porter = ?, After Broner, Porter = Beast"

Brook takes a fine punch. I don't think he'll go out of his way to take a punch square on the nose to prove a point to you though But he's taken punches that shows you he can take a punch.

Unlike another British "welterweight".

[Box-Office]

Well it was certainly a better fight than the stinkfests Khan has given us lately. Do you think Khan will ever get a KO again?

Well, may be if Khan fought Alvaro Robles or Yo Yo Man, he would.

Stink fest? Bruh Khan-Algieri was over million viewers on a Friday night in a non-World title fight. The fight itself and not the card.

Oh so it is Khan's fault he can win every single round in a fight against a guy like Alexander?

The fact you now think Khan's fights are boring says it all as to how far you've gone with your devotion to Brook.

OK so you're saying Broner was an average win for Porter but a massive win for Maidana? That's what I took from what you said.

The same Broner who struggled with Ponce de leon and Paulie Malignaggi. Exactly the same fighter who fought Maidana and was exactly the same that fought Porter.

Khan struggled with Limonds and the Gomezes and there were doubts about his chin, but Prescott sealed our opinion on it. Now many thought Broner was hype, but there were many who felt otherwise because it hadn't been proven in the ring. Maidana did, so to the victor goes the spoil.

I still think it is a good win for Porter, but Broner is an average fighter. However, it is difficult for me to see how Porter beating him is the same as Maidana. Again given the circumstances around each bout.

[yoz]

Well, may be if Khan fought Alvaro Robles or Yo Yo Man, he would.

Stink fest? Bruh Khan-Algieri was over million viewers on a Friday night in a non-World title fight. The fight itself and not the card.

Oh so it is Khan's fault he can win every single round in a fight against a guy like Alexander?

The fact you now think Khan's fights are boring says it all as to how far you've gone with your devotion to Brook.



Khan struggled with Limonds and the Gomezes and there were doubts about his chin, but Prescott sealed our opinion on it. Now many thought Broner was hype, but there were many who felt otherwise because it hadn't been proven in the ring. Maidana did, so to the victor goes the spoil.

I still think it is a good win for Porter, but Broner is an average fighter. However, it is difficult for me to see how Porter beating him is the same as Maidana. Again given the circumstances around each bout.

Solid post.

[yoz]

Since David Haye is unlikely to return to the ring, LacedUp has moved his allegiance to another hyped Brit.

I look forward to the fall.

[LacedUp]

Well, may be if Khan fought Alvaro Robles or Yo Yo Man, he would.

Stink fest? Bruh Khan-Algieri was over million viewers on a Friday night in a non-World title fight. The fight itself and not the card.

Oh so it is Khan's fault he can win every single round in a fight against a guy like Alexander?

The fact you now think Khan's fights are boring says it all as to how far you've gone with your devotion to Brook.

Khan struggled with Limonds and the Gomezes and there were doubts about his chin, but Prescott sealed our opinion on it. Now many thought Broner was hype, but there were many who felt otherwise because it hadn't been proven in the ring. Maidana did, so to the victor goes the spoil.

I still think it is a good win for Porter, but Broner is an average fighter. However, it is difficult for me to see how Porter beating him is the same as Maidana. Again given the circumstances around each bout.

So because it had viewers it was a good fight? What kind of logic is that? Mayweather/Pacquiao had infinitely more and it was also a complete stinkfest. Honestly, Khan wouldn't KO any of those guys. He hasn't had a KO since Judah. Stoppage on cuts or whatever, maybe. But not a knockout. He needs to get himself in the shape he was in vs Collazo asap. Then he'd be a force again maybe.

Winning every round was good. But he talks about power and explosiveness all the time. He had none of those things in his last two fights.

But his fights are boring? Since using Virgil Hunter he's become progressively worse and worse to watch. The Algieri fight was almost unwatchable. When he was with Roach I thought he was the most exciting fighter in the world - or at least up there. He's nowhere near as exciting to watch now. Maybe it also has something to do with the standard of opposition and cherrypicking featherfisted guys.

Broner is an average fighter. So? the general consenses was that he'd outbox Porter right? Just ask the guy above me. Porter may not have the most pleasing style to watch all the time because he can get tied up quite easily. But he's a top 5-6 welterweight. Something Khan hasn't proven yet.

[Box-Office]

So because it had viewers it was a good fight? What kind of logic is that? Mayweather/Pacquiao had infinitely more and it was also a complete stinkfest. Honestly, Khan wouldn't KO any of those guys. He hasn't had a KO since Judah. Stoppage on cuts or whatever, maybe. But not a knockout. He needs to get himself in the shape he was in vs Collazo asap. Then he'd be a force again maybe.

Do I really have to explain that to you?

It was obviously not a snooze fest like you claim Khan fights are.

Winning every round was good. But he talks about power and explosiveness all the time. He had none of those things in his last two fights.

Khan is cringe. I don't pay much attention to what he says. He needs a PR guy. Need to send out some CVs to Khan Promotions.

But his fights are boring? Since using Virgil Hunter he's become progressively worse and worse to watch. The Algieri fight was almost unwatchable. When he was with Roach I thought he was the most exciting fighter in the world - or at least up there. He's nowhere near as exciting to watch now. Maybe it also has something to do with the standard of opposition and cherrypicking featherfisted guys.

Well, to each his own. I'm sure Brook-Porter was worth staying awake all night. I mean it certainly didn't help with the 661k ratings compared to Garcia-Salka 880k.........ouch!

Broner is an average fighter. So? the general consenses was that he'd outbox Porter right? Just ask the guy above me. Porter may not have the most pleasing style to watch all the time because he can get tied up quite easily. But he's a top 5-6 welterweight. Something Khan hasn't proven yet.

I don't know what the general consensus was tbh. I was more in to Lemeiux-N'dam and I'm not gonna lie I didn't care much of their build up.

However, in my opinion I thought Porter would rough Broner up because he doesn't throw enough and if he did lose it's hard not to blame the weight. If anything I looked at it as a lose-lose for Broner. Win and you get no props for beating a weight drained fighter and if you lose, well you got smacked up by someone you've held such a significant advantage over.

Edit: There is a reason why I said it is a good win for Porter. The circumstances show he was at a major disadvantage (weight) and of course Broner brings name value due to being hyped for all those years, so over all it makes it a good win.


Khan will end his career on a higher note than Hatton and Brook. Kell has 35 wins, 10 year WW and one win that stands out. There is a reason for that with Brook.

You can call all the names in the book, but remember one phone call from Khan Promotions office and they will come wagging their tail. That is how it works and it is because Amir is THE MAN and you don't become that by milking one win in a 10 year career. Yet you call Khan a stepping stone in another thread. Cringe.

But it wasn't really close. He won with 5 rounds on one card and 4 on the other. the british judge was obviously sleeping.

There's no way you can make a case for Porter winning the fight, he didn't land 3 clean punches all night.

From a tweet last night.

"before Brook, Porter = beast. After Brook, Porter = Bum. Before Broner, Porter = ?, After Broner, Porter = Beast"

Brook takes a fine punch. I don't think he'll go out of his way to take a punch square on the nose to prove a point to you though But he's taken punches that shows you he can take a punch.

Unlike another British "welterweight".

Give Kuggie Bear his props for coming up with that.

[removed]

Beating Shawn Porter in his own backyard after being wrote off by the entire boxing community was a brilliant performance.

NSB was alllllll over Porter before he faced Kell.

[Tom Cruise]

It took me a while to get on board with the Brook hype. When he beat Porter I was really high on him.

This year has been dissapointing. Dan was a mandatory so understandable. Frankie Gavin was completely pointless and was just used to bulk up the PPV card. He was unfortunate that Khan decided to turn down a huge payday, but now Rios is the 'big' fight for him?

Boring.

When he fights another contender/ champ I'll start paying attention again.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

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