When will you give Brook the respect he deserves?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

It's a shame fans have to play "resume wars" and other such **** measuring competitions instead of two fighters just settling it in the ring and making a ****load of cash for themselves.

[LacedUp]

They are right up there with Porter tbh

Diaz beat Porter in the first fight, Shawn was lucky to get a draw

and Brook ducked Devon twice.

One close win cant define a resume...

No they aren't and no he didn't.

Still, beats Brook's resume

None of them are better or on the same level as Porter.

Maidana is better than any brook opponent point blank period, faced him at a baby age in boxing too! 23 years of age.

His resume splatters hot **** all over Brook's multiple name opponents at world level. Yeah it's not murderers row but it is compared to Brook's trash resume.

Kotelnik, Maidana, Malignaggi, Judah, Peterson, Garcia, Alexander... yeah I know he lost to some but at least he gets in with top level opponents.

Brook has 1 win against an overrated but world level opponent. Okay, one good win but who else? Fooking Jo Jo Dan, Alvaro Robles (wtf) Frankie Gavin, ****ing Saldiva.

Bum bum bums

How is Maidana a better win than Porter? Porter was an undefeated champion and maidana was just a top contender. smh

you say he's beaten a string of top fightes and proceed to mention guys like Malignaggi and Judah + two guys he lost to in Garcia and Peterson. Those wins are YEARS ago. What has he done for me lately?

Keep reaching.

[LacedUp]

This is a Kell-end support group thread.

"buh buh bhy do you not fike Blook"

Brook has mooched off by using Khan's name and is only known to non-Britons because of his association with Khan. Fact! Otherwise he'd be an fringe belt holder like Jan Zavcek.

He is the IBF Champion and? Oh so, belts matter now Laced? Whom has he beaten? Numbers speak for themselves. 35 wins and 1 or may be 2 if you want to add Senchenko worthwhile wins. If Khan was given Kell's path he too would be unbeaten.

I respect Brook as a fighter and winning a genuine World title in a foreign country, but beyond that his resume ain't **** and you're just here milking that one win i.e. the Ricky Hatton Formula.

Waiting for Brook fans to resort to their ad hominem "buh Khan ducking him doe"

delusions of grandeur.

Yes belts matter? He's beaten Porter? He's a better win than ANY win Khan has in his entire career let alone since he got nuked by Garcia.

Haha. Khan would get smacked around like a ragdoll by Porter, probably have his fair share of problems with guys like Carson Jones. We've seen Khan run for dear life vs Diaz ffs. You're not telling me Hatton, Jones etc wouldn't be able to do the same.

Now tell me, which of the version of any fighter Khan fought i.e. 2010 Maidana would beat Brook? No one. Khan's resume is so vastly overrated it's insane.

He has like 3 top 5 wins his whole career, you're talking about him as if he's gone through a Carl Froch type resume.

[The Gambler1981]

Brook is a solid fighter, I would like to see him step out from that Porter win but that is still a very solid 147 win. Rios wouldn't do much for me personally but at least it is a notch or two above his last two opponents since the leg stabbing which was pretty severe so taking the slow road back is understandable.

Straight up Brook shouldn't want to be compared against Khan that is not a meaningful measuring stick, I guess it is debatable but who the **** cares really what does that little exercise even mean? Those dudes should definitely fight though that would be a good contest.

Brook is a good fighter though I don't see how you could say otherwise, going beyond that is a bit of speculation but the guy does have talent so I could see why some would go out on a limb trying to be ahead of the curve with him.

[The Gambler1981]

Haha. Khan would get smacked around like a ragdoll by Porter, probably have his fair share of problems with guys like Carson Jones. We've seen Khan run for dear life vs Diaz ffs. You're not telling me Hatton, Jones etc wouldn't be able to do the same.

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Khan would straight up get rag dolled by Porter, dunno about Carson Jones seems like a guy Khan would handle.

[Box-Office]

delusions of grandeur.

Yes belts matter? He's beaten Porter? He's a better win than ANY win Khan has in his entire career let alone since he got nuked by Garcia.

Haha. Khan would get smacked around like a ragdoll by Porter, probably have his fair share of problems with guys like Carson Jones. We've seen Khan run for dear life vs Diaz ffs. You're not telling me Hatton, Jones etc wouldn't be able to do the same.

Now tell me, which of the version of any fighter Khan fought i.e. 2010 Maidana would beat Brook? No one. Khan's resume is so vastly overrated it's insane.

He has like 3 top 5 wins his whole career, you're talking about him as if he's gone through a Carl Froch type resume.

Pot, Kettle, Black. You get the point.

Khan's resume is over rated.........because he didn't fight in 10 eliminators or smash through the likes of Love"me"more N'dou beh beh.

[LacedUp]

Pot, Kettle, Black. You get the point.

Khan's resume is over rated.........because he didn't fight in 10 eliminators or smash through the likes of Love"me"more N'dou beh beh.

Not really. Not claiming Brook's resume is good? But his best win is better than any Khan win. It's that simple. I know Khanturds like to downplay Porter, but it was a great win. Not sure when Khan has gone in as an underdog (ever) and won.

No Khan's resume is overrated. The same people who'll turn around and say Porter only beat Malignaggi and Alexander will say those same wins for Khan as majestic wins

[Box-Office]

Not really. Not claiming Brook's resume is good? But his best win is better than any Khan win. It's that simple. I know Khanturds like to downplay Porter, but it was a great win. Not sure when Khan has gone in as an underdog (ever) and won.

No Khan's resume is overrated. The same people who'll turn around and say Porter only beat Malignaggi and Alexander will say those same wins for Khan as majestic wins

LOL, nice twist.

Wins matter depending on the stage you beat a guy and the circumstances around it, so Maidana was an unknown brought in to be fed against the next Golden Boy in Ortiz, so him toppling Victor counts for a great win.

You don't honestly think Mayweather beating Castillo back then is the same as Alfonso Gomez now do you? Khan beat Malignaggi in his backyard, first American defense and Paulie himself was coming off a rejuvenating win and not to mention the most important factor, age. Paulie is no Hopkins. Porter fought a shot version in a cup cake first defense.

It is obvious given the guy using his Italian heritage, so he can fight for a European title ffs. Until he received a call to be Garcia's next WW tune up.

[LacedUp]

LOL, nice twist.

Wins matter depending on the stage you beat a guy and the circumstances around it, so Maidana was an unknown brought in to be fed against the next Golden Boy in Ortiz, so him toppling Victor counts for a great win.

You don't honestly think Mayweather beating Castillo back then is the same as Alfonso Gomez now do you? Khan beat Malignaggi in his backyard, first American defense and Paulie himself was coming off a rejuvenating win and not to mention the most important factor, age. Paulie is no Hopkins. Porter fought a shot version in a cup cake first defense.

It is obvious given the guy using his Italian heritage, so he can fight for a European title ffs. Until he received a call to be Garcia's next WW tune up.

Yes it was a great win for him on that level. But not on a world level like Brook's was.

I think that's an entirely embarrassing comparison, but I'll play along. Castillo has gone from being a very good world level fighter with HOF credentials (potentially) to being knocked out multiple times and subsequently fought at Journeyman level for years at least since Hatton beat him - when he was already done after having been in wars with Corrales.

Now let's look at Paulie Malignaggi. He's always been an average fighter. He was when he fought Khan and he was when he fought Porter. However, in this case - does age matter? Paulie was what? 31 when he fought Porter?

And by all accounts he had the worst period of his career leading up to the Khan fight. Now, he had the best period of his career leading up to Porter. He won a WW title against a guy who was expected to beat him. Beat a very tough Cano. Was very competitive with an undefeated Broner and shut out an ancient Judah.

At no stage in his career did he look particularly better than in the period leading up to the Porter fight. Yet, you have said continuously that he was "shot". Based on what I ask?

It's an absolute baseless comment to further discredit Brook of his win over Porter.

[Box-Office]

Yes it was a great win for him on that level. But not on a world level like Brook's was.

I think that's an entirely embarrassing comparison, but I'll play along. Castillo has gone from being a very good world level fighter with HOF credentials (potentially) to being knocked out multiple times and subsequently fought at Journeyman level for years at least since Hatton beat him - when he was already done after having been in wars with Corrales.

Now let's look at Paulie Malignaggi. He's always been an average fighter. He was when he fought Khan and he was when he fought Porter. However, in this case - does age matter? Paulie was what? 31 when he fought Porter?

And by all accounts he had the worst period of his career leading up to the Khan fight. Now, he had the best period of his career leading up to Porter. He won a WW title against a guy who was expected to beat him. Beat a very tough Cano. Was very competitive with an undefeated Broner and shut out an ancient Judah.

At no stage in his career did he look particularly better than in the period leading up to the Porter fight. Yet, you have said continuously that he was "shot". Based on what I ask?

It's an absolute baseless comment to further discredit Brook of his win over Porter.

I wasn't comparing, but just giving an example and it is really lulz you calling anything embarrassing given the thread we're posting in.

You can insert Ricky Hatton instead of Gomez if you wish.

He was 33. Khan fought him at age 29.

Malignaggi was coming off of beating Diaz and as for worse period you might want to revisit his comments to Kellerman post fight Diaz 2.

Porter also fought him coming off a similar rejuvenating win, but after he lost to Khan he went on to become a two weight champ stopping Senchenko (Brook's second best win lol) in his home country, which proves he was in his prime.

However, after getting KOed by Porter, so far we see asking EBU for exemptions to fight for their belt or recently being brought in to get laid out by Danny Garcia.

p.s. He struggled with Cano and the Broner fight was also disputable.