what was it about Margarito that made some of you think he was a threat to beat Money

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  • therealpugilist
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    #191
    Originally posted by Mike D
    Dude break it down all you want and for as long as you want if it will help you believe

    But Antonio Margarito was never going to beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    There was nothing special about the guy


    He had size chin and stamina. Couldn't cut off the ring well vs cotto mosley PAC or Williams but he was gonna somehow beat mayweather who had better footwork n counters, better jab than all of them? I just never saw what they saw

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    • WesternChamp
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      #192
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      rubbish, in no way was Margarito a tougher fight than Hoya

      " height advantage "

      that plodder would have looked like an amateur and he would have made Floyd look like the flash

      he couldn't hit Mayweather with a handful of rice
      shoulda coulda but didnt. instead we're left with a video of floyd acting super spooked of margarito.

      like i said, style makes fight. of course oscar is a better fighter than marg but the style of marg would have given floyd more problems.

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      • WesternChamp
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        #193
        Originally posted by Mike D
        As someone who isn't a Floyd fan, who has rooted against Floyd many times, and would've rooted for Margarito had they fought -- I can say with the utmost confidence that Antonio Margarito would have no f**king shot whatsoever of beating Floyd. Any version of Floyd. Hell today's Floyd would whitewash a prime Margarito for f**k's sake.
        nobody is saying marg would beat floyd. but he would for sure give floyd a harder time.

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          #194
          Originally posted by WesternChamp
          shoulda coulda but didnt. instead we're left with a video of floyd acting super spooked of margarito.

          like i said, style makes fight. of course oscar is a better fighter than marg but the style of marg would have given floyd more problems.
          You saw what you wanted to see.

          Rabies has effected your tiny little eyes.

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            #195
            Originally posted by Kigali
            Throws slow ass wide punches non stop

            Gets hit non stop

            Dude couldn't even hit Shane Mosely...Mayweather would have been like fighting a hologram.
            floyd aint taking marg out though. cotto cant even take marg out. margarito walked thru cotto's punches and would have done the same against floyd with a smile too.

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              #196
              Originally posted by STAX ON DECK
              floyd has social ansiety i dont think he was scared,hes just awkward sometimes because all he jnows is boxing he never had a childhood.

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                #197
                Originally posted by Thraxox
                yup. I've seen their arguments. "Margarito is slow and plodding, mayweather wins easily, no need de to debate about this fight." ignoring all other factors why this fight is going to be dangerous for floyd.
                what other factors ?

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                • therealpugilist
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Thraxox
                  That mentality is really not something to be proud of. Margarito has all the tools that puts him in the position to beat Mayweather. Size, Chin, Stamina, ability to cut off the ring, power, unerelenting pressure. in 2008 in the Cotto fight, they have spoken in utmost confidence that Cotto is going to stop Margarito, that even if Margarito pressures, Cotto would just pivot out of the away and be too slick. And what happened? Cutts of the ring and pounded him on to submission.

                  You noticed that those who says "Margarito has no shot, he's slow and plodding." Have no break down on how the fight goes. But most of the posters who said "Yes, Margo was a threat." had reasons and breakdowns of the fight like LoadedWraps.

                  I don't like Floyd, but I would never say that "He stands no chance against Sugar Ray Leonard." Because from what I have seen, Floyd had some tools to beat Leonard.
                  Here is the break down you wanted


                  Margarito has trouble cutting off the ring watch his fights vs Williams, Santos , Manny, cotto, Mosley.

                  Mayweather has Bette footwork and is quicker than all of them

                  Margo has no head movement. Which is why even Mosley, who isn't know for the jab constantly peppered him with straight shots, as did cotto, Williams....may weather had the sharpest straight rights out of the punch and his jab to the head and liver would keep him honest


                  Add the fact he was the best counterpuncher of his generation

                  Also add he was the most elusive best defense


                  Margo throws conventional punches and he doesn't vary the speed of his jab nor trajectory.... He'll be getting countered all night and turned every which way swinging @ air.....what will surprise him mayweather has a great inside game and body shots. He'd stay there long enough to land his counters, catch shoot then outta there


                  Margo would land 20% or less...dude isn't accurate as a Castillo or as skilled so that whole comparison is waaay of. Castillo actually uses various defensive skills, rolls and parries shots, counters, could fight inside n out. Margo fights one way and is predictable

                  Margo just plods forward never changes his game plan or combinations.....UD mayweather

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                    #199
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist
                    Here is the break down you wanted


                    Margarito has trouble cutting off the ring watch his fights vs Williams, Santos , Manny, cotto, Mosley.

                    Mayweather has Bette footwork and is quicker than all of them

                    Margo has no head movement. Which is why even Mosley, who isn't know for the jab constantly peppered him with straight shots, as did cotto, Williams....may weather had the sharpest straight rights out of the punch and his jab to the head and liver would keep him honest


                    Add the fact he was the best counterpuncher of his generation

                    Also add he was the most elusive best defense


                    Margo throws conventional punches and he doesn't vary the speed of his jab nor trajectory.... He'll be getting countered all night and turned every which way swinging @ air.....what will surprise him mayweather has a great inside game and body shots. He'd stay there long enough to land his counters, catch shoot then outta there


                    Margo would land 20% or less...dude isn't accurate as a Castillo or as skilled so that whole comparison is waaay of. Castillo actually uses various defensive skills, rolls and parries shots, counters, could fight inside n out. Margo fights one way and is predictable

                    Margo just plods forward never changes his game plan or combinations.....UD mayweather
                    ''but but, maidana, doe.''
                    ~delusional margie fan

                    whats wrong with them ???

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                      #200
                      Originally posted by WesternChamp
                      floyd aint taking marg out though. cotto cant even take marg out. margarito walked thru cotto's punches and would have done the same against floyd with a smile too.
                      He'd get outpointed

                      He is not very skilled n even an old Mosley had footwork he couldn't cut off


                      You guys just hoped somebody beat mayweather lol

                      They never fought but he sure spanked Margo's three daddies

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