Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter: No Word From Lara and His Team

[Barcham]

You seem to blame Ggg for Froch falling through. He offered to go up to 168, fight in the UK, how many guys of his stature would do that? What more coukd he offer, to fight for free? Gtfo

No, no, no... fighting for free would not be enough. GGG should also pay his opponent's purse out of his own pocket and offer them at least double what anyone else would offer to get them to fight. Unless he is willing to do that, they will look down at GGG and blame everything under the sun on him.

[Beater_of_ass]

You seem to blame Ggg for Froch falling through. He offered to go up to 168, fight in the UK, how many guys of his stature would do that? What more coukd he offer, to fight for free? Gtfo

I don't blame him for not getting the Froch fight, it's just with GGG you have wrong place, wrong time for EVERY fight unless it says Cotto or Canelo or Floyd.

[HeroBando]

I don't blame him for not getting the Froch fight, it's just with GGG you have wrong place, wrong time for EVERY fight unless it says Cotto or Canelo or Floyd.

Sounds like you are. What wrong place, wrong time for Froch? The fcuker told you repeatedly why he doesnt wanna face the unproven middle, not even in his backyard: punches like a mule, dangerous fight. Should Ggg have to offer 16oz gloves?

[R_Walken]

Lara's fight on PBC got one third the ratings of Golovkin's last fight on HBO. Can you explain to me how that is MORE exposure? Haymon is not about to offer top money to fighters he does not control and does not get of piece of their purse to appear on PBC.

People really have no clue about this shit, do they? Haymon is not going to allow his fighters to fight anywhere but PBC or Showtime and he is not going to invite HBO contracted fighters to appear on PBC. It's not difficult to understand. You want to watch Big **** Theory? Well you tune in to CBS and CBS are not about to allow NBC or ABC to have the actors from their number one program appear on an ABC or NBC show to boost their ratings.

Honestly did your such a male groupie it's sad, If you really are 58 I honestly feel sorry for you.

PBC is a bigger platform no matter how much pains you to realize that's the truth. What's GGG highest audience 1.3-1.5 ? What did Garcia / Thurman Thurman / Guerrero do 3.5 -4.2. Lara fought on spike ,it's PBC 3rd 4th tier channel and their pulling in HBO numbers. And the fighters get paid more

And quit with the Haymon only works with Haymon promoters. Match room and HEARN are independent and have put Degeale , Burns & Macdonald on NBC and they can work deals with HBO / TR and whoever else they see fit but they have a relationship with PBC. Too bad K2 & Main events don't share that same luxury becUse they chose to lock their fighters on 1 platform.

Do this site a favour and remove GGG **** from your throat I'm sure his real wife would appreciate it.

[Beater_of_ass]

Honestly did your such a male groupie it's sad, If you really are 58 I honestly feel sorry for you.

PBC is a bigger platform no matter how much pains you to realize that's the truth. What's GGG highest audience 1.3-1.5 ? What did Garcia / Thurman Thurman / Guerrero do 3.5 -4.2. Lara fought on spike ,it's PBC 3rd 4th tier channel and their pulling in HBO numbers. And the fighters get paid more

And quit with the Haymon only works with Haymon promoters. Match room and HEARN are independent and have put Degeale , Burns & Macdonald on NBC and they can work deals with HBO / TR and whoever else they see fit but they have a relationship with PBC. Too bad K2 & Main events don't share that same luxury becUse they chose to lock their fighters on 1 platform.

Do this site a favour and remove GGG **** from your throat I'm sure his real wife would appreciate it.

Every other PBC card has struggled to hit a 1.0 rating, PBC is not even close to a "monster." I promise you if Haymon didn't get the boot from HBO PBC wouldn't even be around.

[ИATAS]

How am I talking about something else? I'm talking pro-boxing and you bring up his amateur career but say I'm talking about something else.

You're all over the place man, you can't follow a conversation. We were talking about Hopkins/GGG comparison and you end up responding to that by going in another direction as a response to what I write.

Obviously the reason I brought up his amateur career was for a very specific reason (see it's like you forgot or purposely go off course). If you can't comprehend it that's on you.

I also find it funny you say that his former promoter wasted time chasing Sturm and yet K2 has him chasing Cotto and Canelo, ****ing L O L.

Is Golovkin currently wasting any time? He's fighting top 10 guys in his weight class and attempting to unify the division, he can still do that w/o Cotto/Canelo at this very moment. When he was with Universum, it was a big waste of time and during the legal issues he had to fight outside of Germany in places like Panama and Kazakhstan just to stay busy. When your own promoter is steering you AWAY from a title fight, I'd say that is a big waste of time. He was mandatory for over two years to Felix Sturm, who was promoting Sturm as well, literally made deals so that Sturm wouldn't have to fight Golovkin. Here:

Oner Explains Details of Sturm Paying To Avoid Golovkin
By Rick Reeno

A few weeks ago, an interesting story was making the rounds in Germany. Promoter Ahmet Oner of Arena Box, who briefly worked with former middleweight champion Felix Sturm, explained how Sturm used money and politics to avoid a mandatory defense against Gennady Golovkin.

Golovkin had been Sturm's mandatory challenger for years, but he was unable to secure his shot. When Golovkin was finally on the verge of landing that shot, Sturm was mysteriously elevated to the status of "super champion" by the WBA. The status of "super champion" is usually reserved for boxers who unify at least two major titles. Golovkin was eventually made the "regular" champion by the sanctioning body.

When he left Universum, Sturm first approached Oner and was looking for help to find a loophole to prevent a match with Golovkin. Oner put Sturm in touch with a third party. The third party told Sturm that he could pay the WBA a sum of money to make him the "super champion" and prevent the mandatory fight with Golovkin.

The third party went to the WBA with a written request to make Sturm the "super champion." For whatever reason, the WBA granted that request - but there was never an exchange of funds. The unknown third party, pulling off a swerve of his own, pocketed Sturm's money and never offered it to the WBA. He secured Sturm's new championship status with a simple written request.

"I never spoke to the WBA. Felix Sturm, he was with Universum, and when he wanted to leave Universum to be his own promoter - they approached me and they asked me how I could help them not fight Golovkin. So what happened is, I found a guy and spoke to him. And he offered Sturm a deal and said [to Sturm] "we can ask [the WBA] for super champion [status] and then you don't need to fight him.' And that's what happened," Oner told BoxingScene.com.

"The situation is, Felix Sturm ran away from Golovkin in Germany and used the WBA's situation as super champion - and many people said he didn't deserve to be super champion because he never won two belts like Klitschko or whoever. There was never contact between Sturm and the WBA. The WBA was never involved. It's like if you going to the WBA and asking 'can you make this guy super champion, he is a big star and has a TV deal.' The third party never paid the WBA a penny. The third party kept the money all in his pocket."

And like Cotto is he taking his time and waiting for people to come to him. Everytime someone is brought up it's "make an offer." How about GGG make an offer? His team sits and waits for a big fight, while looking for smaller fighters for fame and glory which I understand, that's what all fighthers want. I don't want to hear how hard it is to get a fight while you sit on your hands and wait and the only offers you initiate are to the Willie Monroe's of the world.

Seriously? Cotto's people literally wouldn't talk to K2. There has to be communication, it's a two way street when it comes to trying to make a fight.

I was fine with Murray and Geale those were solid fights, but when Cotto put Geale on his ass in the same amount of time on top of GGG saying he let's guys hit him... His stock had to fall and it did. I don't buy that excuse of letting himself get hit on purpose for entertainment and I don't buy the "I can't a fight excuse" while he sits on his hands. It didn't happen with Froch, yet another scenario where GGG can't get a fight which ALWAYS happens to him. Unluckiest man in the world. If he stays at 160 and fights stumblebums again, he'll get **** for it and rightfully deserved.

Who should he fight then? If the blame is on him, who should he be fighting? Cotto/Canelo/Froch aren't fighting him next, we know that much. Andy Lee/BJS are fighting each other. So basically that leaves the winner for Lemeiux/N'Dam for the IBF strap. That's what we can hope for as a best case scenario.

[ИATAS]

Honestly did your such a male groupie it's sad, If you really are 58 I honestly feel sorry for you.

PBC is a bigger platform no matter how much pains you to realize that's the truth. What's GGG highest audience 1.3-1.5 ? What did Garcia / Thurman Thurman / Guerrero do 3.5 -4.2. Lara fought on spike ,it's PBC 3rd 4th tier channel and their pulling in HBO numbers. And the fighters get paid more

HBO numbers? It did pretty poor, the card had 443,000 viewers making it the lowest ratings for PBC on Spike events. Overall Spike numbers are pretty low.

[R_Walken]

Every other PBC card has struggled to hit a 1.0 rating, PBC is not even close to a "monster." I promise you if Haymon didn't get the boot from HBO PBC wouldn't even be around.

I'm not disagreeing with what your saying and not saying it's a monster I'm just pointing out that PBC on NBC has the largest audience and is the biggest platform for boxing . shi.t even Stevenson on CBS did 1.3-1.5 ( I think could be wrong ) and Berto / Lopez Khan /Algieri did over million on Spike. I think the espn #s will be decent.

I think it's a safe bet by the end of the year PBC, broadcast will have at least 3/4 of the top 10 highest rated boxing programs for the year.

HBO numbers? It did pretty poor, the card had 443,000 viewers making it the lowest ratings for PBC on Spike events. Overall Spike numbers are pretty low.

What did HBO last broadcast do 600k. The name drives the ratings Lara gets low ratings but Spike already had 2 of their 4 broadcasts do over a million. Not bad for their 3rd / 4th tier platform. (NBC , CBS , Espn , Spike )

[ИATAS]

What did HBO last broadcast do 600k. The name drives the ratings Lara gets low ratings but Spike already had 2 of their 4 broadcasts do over a million. Not bad for their 3rd / 4th tier platform. (NBC , CBS , Espn , Spike )

You said they do "HBO numbers" and I'm just showing you HBO has never done numbers that low even with their worst broadcast ratings of all time. I appreciate boxing being on Spike but they aren't really comparable. HBO is still the premier boxing network as of now. That could change overtime of course but that still remains to be seen (it takes time).

I'm just not seeing what benefit there is from HBO's perspective of letting one of their fighters fight on a different network on a PBC card.

[R_Walken]

You said they do "HBO numbers" and I'm just showing you HBO has never done numbers that low even with their worst broadcast ratings of all time. I appreciate boxing being on Spike but they aren't really comparable. HBO is still the premier boxing network as of now. That could change overtime of course but that still remains to be seen (it takes time).

I'm just not seeing what benefit there is from HBO's perspective of letting one of their fighters fight on a different network on a PBC card.

I get what your saying to some extent and obviously "HBO numbers" is a bit of a hyperbole on my part but HBO avg 600-1.6 spike is doing 400-1.2 Not really far off.

The days of HBO being the premier boxing channel are coming to a end if it isn't already there. PBC is slaying HBO as far as competitive matches this year and like Insaid earlier PBC will most likely dominate the top 10 ratings for boxing so what will make them the premier boxing Channel? Because you like their house fighters more then PBC fighters ?

It makes no sense for HBO to allow one of their fighters on contract to fight on a PBC platform but it makes sense for the fighters promoters to do so. More exposure & More $.