Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: Golovkin Has Had 8 or 9 Different Excuses

[Eastcoast]

The difference is that Ward has beaten world champions and fighters listed in the mythical pound for pound ratings. While Golovkin's resume is is full of Paul Smith's and he's done nothing to change that.

While Ward is fighting Paul Smith as a tune up, Golovkin has fought boxers on that level with regularity and he's already 33 years old.

First off, Paul Smith is on a lower level than guys like Monroe or Rubio. Smith is a domestic level fighter who guys like Monroe, Rubio, and Stevens would beat.

Second off, Ward hasn't beat a top level guy in 3 and half years. Live in the now.

Third, understand what market value means. It's the reason Andre Ward has to fight on a BET time buy - losing his promoter money, where Golovkin can fight a guy like Willie Monroe and do better gate and tv numbers than Andre Ward did vs Chad Dawson in his hometown. Peace!

[Eastcoast]

Andre told it how it is, cant even argue with a single thing he said about GGG unless youre a total GGG fanboy.

Does that mean Ward is above criticism for things he's done as so many GGG ****riders are bringing up? No, of course not.

Yeah you can. Understand what market value means. It's the reason Andre Ward has to fight on a BET time buy - losing his promoter money, where Golovkin can fight a guy like Willie Monroe and do better gate and tv numbers than Andre Ward did vs Chad Dawson in his hometown.

[Crazylegs77]

Ward's a perpetual BS artist. He hasn't fought the best since he fought Froch three and half years ago.

• In 2011 says he'll go up to LHW for the 'right' fight. In 2012 has LHW champ Chad Dawson drain down to 168.
• Tells SMW Lucian Bute he's all hype and needs to prove himself. Tells MW Gennady Golovkin he's all hype and he'll fight him 'Any place, any time'.
• Tells everyone Chavez Jr is a tough fight, 6 months later tells everyone Carl Froch is taking the easiest option trying to fight Chavez Jr.
• Criticizes Golovkin for waiting on smaller men, while he waits on Golovkin.
• Criticizes Golovkin for fighting low level opponents, as he gets ready for Paul Smith, a guy who's never won a fight above domestic level.

And his fans aren't much better. They'll criticize Golovkin for saying he'd fight Floyd at 154, yet they conveniently forget Ward saying he'd fight Floyd at 160.

Golovkin is willing to fight Froch and Chavez because they have what Andre doesn't - Market Value. Even James DeGale has more market value than Andre Ward. The man's desperate for respect and crying that it's everyone else's fault when he's the one who put himself in this situation.

Bravo. Well said.

[AgainstTheRopes]

Yeah you can. Understand what market value means. It's the reason Andre Ward has to fight on a BET time buy - losing his promoter money, where Golovkin can fight a guy like Willie Monroe and do better gate and tv numbers than Andre Ward did vs Chad Dawson in his hometown.

and here you have 1 of GGG's 8-9 excuses

GGG fans starting to sound a lot like Mayweather fans

[T18Z]

Ward's a perpetual BS artist. He hasn't fought the best since he fought Froch three and half years ago.

• In 2011 says he'll go up to LHW for the 'right' fight. In 2012 has LHW champ Chad Dawson drain down to 168.
• Tells SMW Lucian Bute he's all hype and needs to prove himself. Tells MW Gennady Golovkin he's all hype and he'll fight him 'Any place, any time'.
• Tells everyone Chavez Jr is a tough fight, 6 months later tells everyone Carl Froch is taking the easiest option trying to fight Chavez Jr.
• Criticizes Golovkin for waiting on smaller men, while he waits on Golovkin.
• Criticizes Golovkin for fighting low level opponents, as he gets ready for Paul Smith, a guy who's never won a fight above domestic level.

And his fans aren't much better. They'll criticize Golovkin for saying he'd fight Floyd at 154, yet they conveniently forget Ward saying he'd fight Floyd at 160.

Golovkin is willing to fight Froch and Chavez because they have what Andre doesn't - Market Value. Even James DeGale has more market value than Andre Ward. The man's desperate for respect and crying that it's everyone else's fault when he's the one who put himself in this situation.

Good post.

Let's see them try and pick apart the points you made.

I bet they'll all ignore your post and not have the gut to even respond directly.

[Eastcoast]

and here you have 1 of GGG's 8-9 excuses

GGG fans starting to sound a lot like Mayweather fans

Explain how that's an excuse? Are you naive enough to believe Ward would do like Kovalev for Hopkins and take short money to make the fight?

Ward's crying, but he ain't trying. He's got a big time promoter with big time money, let them make an offer and shut Golovkin up.

[T18Z]

and here you have 1 of GGG's 8-9 excuses

GGG fans starting to sound a lot like Mayweather fans

Gonna respond to the other points he made or avoid them like the plague you biased fool?

[Fetta]

and here you have 1 of GGG's 8-9 excuses

GGG fans starting to sound a lot like Mayweather fans

GGG fans just mad Smith is fighting ward instead of being his next opponent.

[AgainstTheRopes]

Gonna respond to the other points he made or avoid them like the plague you biased fool?:*******:

I responded to them already.

I said Ward has plenty to be criticized for including many of the things he listed. Some of those things are just straight fabrication or exaggeration. Ward isnt chasing GGG, he's acknowledged that they wont face him and isnt going to waste his energy.

[AgainstTheRopes]

Explain how that's an excuse? Are you naive enough to believe Ward would do like Kovalev for Hopkins and take short money to make the fight?

Ward's crying, but he ain't trying. He's got a big time promoter with big time money, let them make an offer and shut Golovkin up.

Did you read the article? GGG's camp (promoter, trainer, HBO) do not want the fight and its not about money