Comments Thread For: Gennady Golovkin's Promoter on Facing James DeGale

[Dirk Diggler UK]

My next fight is contracted at 172lbs. With 2 1/2 weeks left, my weight is good!! #June20th #WardVsSmith

A photo posted by Andre Ward (@andresogward) on Jun 3, 2015 at 10:39am PDT

Yeah that's it.

[Str8RightHand]

This guy can't be serious... PPV?!?! Even if it was Froch vs GGG instead of GGG vs Degale, that's still HBO Boxing After Dark material... Only hardcore fans know the Cobra. I'd even be willing to bet more people know GGG here in the states. That fight only makes sense in Britain where it can be maximized for what it is. It may be PPV on SkySports locally over there... No chance in America

[Scipio2009]

Promoter Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions, who handles the career of WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady "GGG" Golovkin (33-0, 30KOs), is always looking to secure the biggest fight possible for his rising superstar.

In the last few weeks, Loeffler was attempted to get Golovkin in the ring with top super middleweight star Carl Froch of Nottingham. Golovkin was willing to move up to 168-pounds and also had no issue with facing Froch on UK soil.
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Team Golovkin, simply put, needs to stop running their mouths then. Golovkin is already 33 years old (after having 400 fights as an amateur), and he's only leaving 160 for a massive money fight.

Speak the truth and shame the devil; that 154-168 nonsense was pure marketing schtick, and hopefully everyone finally acknowledges what Golovkin is, a middleweight fighter, toiling in arguably the worst time period for middleweights in recent history, with no actual ambition to challenge himself in any real way.

[STEELHEAD]

Promoter Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions, who handles the career of WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady "GGG" Golovkin (33-0, 30KOs), is always looking to secure the biggest fight possible for his rising superstar.

In the last few weeks, Loeffler was attempted to get Golovkin in the ring with top super middleweight star Carl Froch of Nottingham. Golovkin was willing to move up to 168-pounds and also had no issue with facing Froch on UK soil.
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agree with loeffler.
iwouldnt want to see a ggg/degale neither.
unless it was the only fight in town then i'd go with it.

[Beater_of_ass]

If you eat a roast turkey before it is cooked it won't taste great. K2's work with Golovkin is still cooking lets see how good they are in 2 years time - for me the jury is still out. Right now they are trying to step him up and take a leap forward with Golovkin but the other parties won't play ball and keep taking the ball home.
But I think they have done a fantastic job so far. They took an unknown fighter and in just 2 yrs 9 months he has become one of the most talked about fighters in the world in spite of the fact that he comes from a country with no boxing demographic whatsoever.
Which is GGG fighting? B level fighters or bums - or are they one and the same in your opinion? And in Cotto's last 3 fights I have him fighting 2 B level fighters - would you agree? Many would say that with Martinez' injuries he was a a 'B' level fighter ability-wise if not in name.

He's 30+ years old, they are pressing hard for everyone because they know they have very little time. It's everyone's BUT GGG's fault for turning pro earlier than GGG. You do realize most of these guys were in their teens or very early 20's when they turned pro. They've had a 10 year start in the game to grow themselves. GGG has done well in 2 years, it's not 10 years. It's not "pay your dues" it's... it takes time to become a star and they want the fast track and are going there because he took his time becoming a pro. That's his own damn fault.

GGG has been fighting B level fighters. Cotto fighting those same B level guys earns at least equal credit because he's in his 4th weightclass. CW or not Cotto KO'd Geale in the same time as GGG. He started at JWW, GGG is where he started... Cotto had a 3 inch height and 4 inch reach disadvantage, he was also 20 pounds smaller. GGG was even if not longer and heavier than Geale.

Martinez is a B-level fighter now? We knew about the knee injury, Cotto was still a 3-1 underdog. We knew about the injury going into the Martin Murray fight, he couldn't get Sergio out of there. He's also 5 inches taller than Cotto, who knows how much longer and easily 20+ pounds heavier. He didn't beat a crippled Martinez. Again... this is in Cotto's 4th weightclass not 4th. You can discredit Cotto's wins all you want. But Geale and Martinez is a lot better than Martinez and Geale. In two fights a former JWW matched GGG's did better in GGG's best two MW wins.

GGG still beats Cotto.

[Eastcoast]

Team Golovkin, simply put, needs to stop running their mouths then. Golovkin is already 33 years old (after having 400 fights as an amateur), and he's only leaving 160 for a massive money fight.

Speak the truth and shame the devil; that 154-168 nonsense was pure marketing schtick, and hopefully everyone finally acknowledges what Golovkin is, a middleweight fighter, toiling in arguably the worst time period for middleweights in recent history, with no actual ambition to challenge himself in any real way.

Team Golovkin made the 154-168 comment back in 2012 & 2013. After he fought Proksa, he made offers to Edwin Rodriguez and Thomas Oosthuizen for $500k. La Bomba turned it down, Tommy Gun wanted more money. Later they attempted to fight Kessler, Froch, and Chavez - entertaining money fights that would raise his profile.

Let's compare this to Hopkins who was 37 years old before he hit the lottery when Trinidad finally fought him. He was 36 when Holmes fought him due to the King tournament. Despite starting his career at LHW, he never bother to move up and challenge himself. The MW division was no better then than now. Hell after Trinidad, Hopkins turned down a multi-million dollar deal with Showtime to fight Harry Simon and Joe Calzaghe and instead went back to fighting guys with no chance like Carl Daniels, Hakkar, and a shot Joppy. During the RJJ negotiations, Bernard called out Ottke & Michalzewski. When they came back with offers he balked. He never left MW til Jermain Taylor kicked him out.

[Fetta]

I would pay to watch it

[kafkod]

He's 30+ years old, they are pressing hard for everyone because they know they have very little time. It's everyone's BUT GGG's fault for turning pro earlier than GGG. You do realize most of these guys were in their teens or very early 20's when they turned pro. They've had a 10 year start in the game to grow themselves. GGG has done well in 2 years, it's not 10 years. It's not "pay your dues" it's... it takes time to become a star and they want the fast track and are going there because he took his time becoming a pro. That's his own damn fault.

GGG has been fighting B level fighters. Cotto fighting those same B level guys earns at least equal credit because he's in his 4th weightclass. CW or not Cotto KO'd Geale in the same time as GGG. He started at JWW, GGG is where he started... Cotto had a 3 inch height and 4 inch reach disadvantage, he was also 20 pounds smaller. GGG was even if not longer and heavier than Geale.

Martinez is a B-level fighter now? We knew about the knee injury, Cotto was still a 3-1 underdog. We knew about the injury going into the Martin Murray fight, he couldn't get Sergio out of there. He's also 5 inches taller than Cotto, who knows how much longer and easily 20+ pounds heavier. He didn't beat a crippled Martinez. Again... this is in Cotto's 4th weightclass not 4th. You can discredit Cotto's wins all you want. But Geale and Martinez is a lot better than Martinez and Geale. In two fights a former JWW matched GGG's did better in GGG's best two MW wins.

GGG still beats Cotto.

I don't know what you mean by saying that Martinez and Geale is a lot better than Geale and Martinez.

But whatever. Beating Geale at a CW straight after he'd been destroyed by GGG proved nothing except that Cotto didn't even have enough confidence to fight one of GGG's leftovers without draining him first.

And don't try and say that 3lbs didn't mean anything. If it didn't mean anything Cotto wouldn't have insisted on having it.

And remember, Cotto only got the crippled, CW version of Martinez because the fully fit, 160lb version refused to fight GGG, even though GGG offered to go to Argentina for only 15% of the purse.

[Beater_of_ass]

I don't know what you mean by saying that Martinez and Geale is a lot better than Geale and Martinez.

But whatever. Beating Geale at a CW straight after he'd been destroyed by GGG proved nothing except that Cotto didn't even have enough confidence to fight one of GGG's leftovers without draining him first.

And don't try and say that 3lbs didn't mean anything. If it didn't mean anything Cotto wouldn't have insisted on having it.

And remember, Cotto only got the crippled, CW version of Martinez because the fully fit, 160lb version refused to fight GGG, even though GGG offered to go to Argentina for only 15% of the purse.

I meant Geale and Murray.

And I know Sergio picked Cotto, because ALL fighters, even the precious Sergio fight for money. He was saying how much a champion should come in 2nd and announced last because that's boxing. Apparently side-stepping GGG to fight Cotto was best for MW? No, he just like everyone else fights for money.

It's why GGG can't get a fight, he has fans, he gets ratings. Currently though, other people get more it's that simple.

[Teetotaler]

Danm I don't understand the hate for GGG