WOW! PBC has burned thorugh 143M dollars, investors lose 27.5% of its value!

[nacho daddy]

Because they love it when a black man fail!

ain't nothing changed from Jack johnson era!!!!

its all the same!!

admit it you hate white people so why are you worried about getting it back? in your pic of Johnson he knocked out a small middleweight who he outweighed by 60 lbs

[Barcham]

Hyperbole doesn't change anything~

Hockey has fighting but it is not all about fist fighting.

You calling names and insulting me doesn't do anything for your point, it just makes you look like a jackass who has no idea how to properly talk as an adult for someone who is supposed to be damn near 60.

It is difficult to carry on a discussion with someone who is intellectually incapable of comprehending the topics being discussed. Someone who thinks that boxing is comparable to any team sport is simply not in the game at all. Even Al Haymon would not make such comparisons because they would get him laughed out of the room.

[The Gambler1981]

It is difficult to carry on a discussion with someone who is intellectually incapable of comprehending the topics being discussed. Someone who thinks that boxing is comparable to any team sport is simply not in the game at all. Even Al Haymon would not make such comparisons because they would get him laughed out of the room.

I still fail to see why boxing shouldn't be considered the same as other sports.

It involves athletes

It is organized

There are rules


The only thing different about boxing than other sports is the fact is is governed by no one and is set up in a totally piss poor fashion. PBC is a possible solution to that issue bringing it much more in line with other sports.

I mean what is so hard to get about this and why does this make me of lesser intelligence than you? I have conducted myself pretty well for all the insults and your piss poor attitude toward actual discussion.

Once again I would say look in the mirror because I see lots of people that got what I was saying and you are the one pretty much standing alone. Don't put your situation or problems on me. Or are you just on a boxing message board to disparage boxing?

[Barcham]

I still fail to see why boxing shouldn't be considered the same as other sports.

It involves athletes

It is organized

There are rules


The only thing different about boxing than other sports is the fact is is governed by no one and is set up in a totally piss poor fashion. PBC is a possible solution to that issue bringing it much more in line with other sports.

I mean what is so hard to get about this and why does this make me of lesser intelligence than you? I have conducted myself pretty well for all the insults and your piss poor attitude toward actual discussion.

Once again I would say look in the mirror because I see lots of people that got what I was saying and you are the one pretty much standing alone. Don't put your situation or problems on me. Or are you just on a boxing message board to disparage boxing?

NHL consists of 30 teams who each play 82 regular season games per year. MLB consists of 30 teams who each play 162 regular season games per year. NFL consists of 32 teams who collectively compete in a seventeen-week, 256-game regular season. Each season has a schedule to follow and a team travels to other cities throughout the season to play away games as well as playing at their home arena or stadium. Each sport is controlled by a governing body and each league has a players' union to ensure proper treatment of the athletes and a set rule base for each sport. Each team in each sport is affiliated with a particular city and has a large fan base, often a very rabid fan base, who collectively spend many MILLIONS OF DOLLARS on merchandise ranging from low cost car flags to sweaters and jackets costing in the hundreds of dollars, sometimes thousands depending on the popularity of the team.

Boxing consists of a number of independent contractors (boxers) who may fight anywhere from zero to 6 or more times per year depending on their current level in the sport. The more popular and successful the fighter, the lower number of fights he usually has per year. Boxers do not represent any particular city or state and do not have any real connection to the community they come from. There is no merchandise sales to speak of. There is no central governing body in the sport, no season to speak of and no playoff season with a championship at the end. Champions basically make up their own rules as to when to defend their titles and who to defend them against. Boxers may also create their own conditions for their fights, such as catchweights, ring size and glove type. There are no set rules that must be followed as there is nor central governing body. There are currently 17 weight classes in boxing and somewhere in the area of 78 various titles to be won.

No, you are right... boxing is exactly the same as other sports.

[The Gambler1981]

NHL consists of 30 teams who each play 82 regular season games per year. MLB consists of 30 teams who each play 162 regular season games per year. NFL consists of 32 teams who collectively compete in a seventeen-week, 256-game regular season. Each season has a schedule to follow and a team travels to other cities throughout the season to play away games as well as playing at their home arena or stadium. Each sport is controlled by a governing body and each league has a players' union to ensure proper treatment of the athletes and a set rule base for each sport. Each team in each sport is affiliated with a particular city and has a large fan base, often a very rabid fan base, who collectively spend many MILLIONS OF DOLLARS on merchandise ranging from low cost car flags to sweaters and jackets costing in the hundreds of dollars, sometimes thousands depending on the popularity of the team.

Boxing consists of a number of independent contractors (boxers) who may fight anywhere from zero to 6 or more times per year depending on their current level in the sport. The more popular and successful the fighter, the lower number of fights he usually has per year. Boxers do not represent any particular city or state and do not have any real connection to the community they come from. There is no merchandise sales to speak of. There is no central governing body in the sport, no season to speak of and no playoff season with a championship at the end. Champions basically make up their own rules as to when to defend their titles and who to defend them against. Boxers may also create their own conditions for their fights, such as catchweights, ring size and glove type. There are no set rules that must be followed as there is nor central governing body. There are currently 17 weight classes in boxing and somewhere in the area of 78 various titles to be won.

No, you are right... boxing is exactly the same as other sports.

National TV contracts are different than local TV contracts. There is a reason you have to pay extra to see out of market games.

Like I said boxing has been run in a piss poor fashion, but it is organized, there are rules and it involves athletes competing in competition.


To me that sounds like there is some potential there to bring the sport more in line with other organized athletics, which i assume is what Haymon and privet equity see the chance to be running what could be a currently undervalued sport.


And like I said you are a naysayer all you are doing is pointing out obvious stuff that is pretty much trivial to whether the venture will succeed or fail.

[PACnPBFsuck]

Thank god, now they can go back to Showtime and charge extra for the same fights.

[Larry the boss]

What the hell is boxing leaks? The guy is a nobody and his tweets are all anti-Haymon/PBC. 250 followers? We have posters on this forum with more followers.

And how would a fan know how much Haymon's company spent? Based on what Haymon's company spent on the time-buys, purses to date and expenses, it still doesn't come close to that alleged number. For example, their most expensive show to date was the first NBC show with Thurman-Guerrero and they spent around 8-9 million on that show. Most of that expense was the crazy advertising and high production cost of the very first PBC telecast.

And the hedge fund losing it's worth is a matter that is unrelated to Haymon or his venture.

[Scipio2009]

If I choose to subscribe to the NHL Center Ice package from my cable provider, I can watch every game of every team in the league. If I subscribe to the MLB package, I can watch every game of every team in the league for the entire season. Either package will cost me less for the season than one boxing PPV.

The Canadiens are shown on Hockey Night in Canada in Eastern Canada on the CBC network, the Leafs are shown in Ontario and central Canada and Calgary and Vancouver in their respective markets. This will all change next year with the new deal the NHL signed with Rogers, but it has been this way since the first day hockey was aired on Canadian television.

So the Canadiens are shown on national Canadian TV 1, maybe 2, times. good to know

[Eastcoast]

Outflows hit Waddell & Reed funds http://t.co/Z6P3zWDyfj this is interesting...

— Steve Kim (@steveucnlive) June 11, 2015

Why this has nothing to do directly with the PBC (hurting from other investments), it could be a threat to to their future funding.

[Eastcoast]

Mutual funds***39; troubles may negatively impact the Premier Boxing Champions http://t.co/eozimiV0D8 via @YahooSports

— Kevin Iole (@KevinI) June 19, 2015

Iole reiterating what we already covered 10 days ago - Waddell & Reed lost a ton of investor backing and that puts the PBC future funding in jeopardy.

I like tonight's fight, but Haymon's burned through a ton of money in unnecessary fashion. Million dollar paydays to Lara and Guerrero for BS stay busy fights in front of nobody with low tv numbers when the market value for those fights wouldn't even be an eighth of that.

All the while Haymon's lining his own pockets with his 20% fee. I hope he pulls his head out of his ass and starts running things more intelligently and stops acting like this is a frivolous money grab.