Where is Carl Froch ranked in British ATG's?

[Bozbay]

Where do you guys rank Carl Froch in British history, pound for pound?

[JJRod]

Below modern greats like Lewis and Calzaghe but above Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton.

[IronDanHamza]

He's up there.

[No Tomorrow]

He's gotta be near the top

[gmc_rfc_06]

He's close to the top.

Below Lennox, of course, but above the likes of Calzaghe and Hatton.

[mani1]

He's no where near the top in reality he is just a paper champ in the weakest division in history.

He's about the same level as Mustafa Hamsho historically

Lewis, Calzaghe, Hamed, Hatton all rank higher than him in just recent years,

[#CaneloKhan]

im not no expert in british boxing but I will assume anywhere calslappy is right above that and just below lewis

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From the looks of this thread time began in 1995

I'm not a nostalgist either but come on.. It's arguable whether Hamed, Hatton etc would crack the top 10. Amir Khan is not an ATG period, the best he can hope for if he never loses again is "honorable mention". Jimmy Wilde is usually considered #1 in British history.

[M Bison]

Carl should fight DeGale get his belt and maybe look to try and finish off with a strong win against GGG but he belongs up at the top he is just one or two defining names away from pipping both Joe and Lewis imo.

[Scary]

I would say he has surpassed Calzaghe too. He retired too early, missed the opportunity to do his "Bute" against Pavlik, but again got outhustled by Hopkins in that department.

And his best win was probably Hopkins, and that win was extremely razerthin and should've probably been a draw, I don't mind him winning though.

Froch's attitude alone in facing who he has faced has been unblemished, constantly wanting the biggest and baddest fights out there for him. Especially that Groves fight 2, he gave this pretty much unknown fighter, who he had just had one of the worst nights I've seen a fighter of Froch's caliber have, a shot to get back on him. I recall the 6th round in Froch Groves I. How Froch got back in with him, after escaping with a victory is beyond me, but a testament to just how tough and real Carl Froch is.

So lets break it down:

Good Wins:

Kessler,
Groves,
Bute,
Pascal,
Abraham,
Dirrell,
Taylor,
Johnson
Reid,
(McGee)

That's a lot of names!

Losses:
Kessler,
Ward.

Names missed:

... hmm... DeGale?! Calzaghe?! GG?! Stevenson?! Kovalev... Nah none of those ... Froch faced everyone he could in his division

So let's put on Calzaghe's list:

Good wins:

Hopkins,
Kessler,
Lacy,
Roy,
Bika,
Reid,
(Brewer, Woodhall, Ashira)

And ofcourse no losses.

Who did he miss?

His nemesis would've been Pavlik, the whole world craved that fight. Instead he chose Jones (He always dreamed of beating his idol)
Johnson, he pulled out 2 times. I think one of them was because he was scared of flying (which later was not a problem.(This story could be Frank Warren spin))
Carl Froch, he did not feel that Froch was ever worthy of meeting him, while he was active. Might have been something to that, but what a win that would've been in this discussion particularly.
Chad Dawson, could've been his biggest win. Instead Ward handled him, even got him down to SMW, which proves that he would've done the same against Joe.
I would actually like to say Hopkins rematch too, because the world craved that one. It felt like unfinished business. Instead he chose Roy.

So all in all, it's not cut in stone, but I would say that nowadays Froch has done more. It felt like Calzaghe retired just a fight or two too early. There was unfaced competition. On Carls end of things, the whole division has been cleaned out, he'll need to go to the new generation of up-comers or hopefully get someone particularly from the MW division - Could be boxings next big fight imo.