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  • Eff Pandas
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    #21
    Originally posted by BWC
    Sure the top 10 guys would fight him for massive paydays but a Wilder fight is going to be a lotto ticket if he unifies after he beats an ancient Wlad. I think a lot of contenders look at a 29-year old Wilder and see his talent and see he's not going anywhere. If you're Pulev, Fury, Joshua, etc and you can grab a Wilder fight you it will be like a Mayweather fight now, massive paydays..
    You say massive payday, I say fair payday. Like I said I'm sure top ten guys can get more, then Molina is making for this fight, fighting non-champions so from the getting your market value mindset it makes no sense for them to accept short money.

    And you'll get no argument from me about Wilder's talent level, he can probably beat most of the top ten, but that still don't mean you should lowball them. It seems to me Wilder's team has more apprehension about Wilder than most of his harder core fans do cuz they've taken the path of least resistance from pro debut til now while acting like no one wants to fight him cuz they're making ****ty offers.

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    • BWC
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      #22
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      You say massive payday, I say fair payday. Like I said I'm sure top ten guys can get more, then Molina is making for this fight, fighting non-champions so from the getting your market value mindset it makes no sense for them to accept short money.

      And you'll get no argument from me about Wilder's talent level, he can probably beat most of the top ten, but that still don't mean you should lowball them. It seems to me Wilder's team has more apprehension about Wilder than most of his harder core fans do cuz they've taken the path of least resistance from pro debut til now while acting like no one wants to fight him cuz they're making ****ty offers.
      I see your point, my counter argument who IS fighting other Top 10 guys? These guys like Pulev, Jennings, Stiverne, Fury may be the rightful top contender, but they certainly aren't in any rush to prove it. The only guy who seems to want to fight other top-10-15 guys is Povetkin and he's Wilder's mandatory.

      None of these guys ever want to fight each other. The game is to beat up stiffs until you get a shot at Wlad. Lame or not, Wilder is no different in this regard..

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      • fastjabs2015
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        #23
        Originally posted by BWC
        Why do people keep saying Wilder has a "suspect chin"? what a load of BS. I'm starting to think most people have never seen Wilder actually fight, they just go off what Wilder-haters say on boards like this. Wilder took several nice shots from Stiverne, a 248 lb beast and was never even hurt. Meanwhile people talk about Povetkin's "great chin" as he goes down like 5 times to Wlad's jab.

        Wilder does not have a "suspect chin", what a crock..
        I agree with this. There is no evidence of DW having a poor chin. He took good shots from Stiverne who is a good puncher. The amateur stuff is a different world.

        Wilder will inherit the division once WK retires/loses and he will rule for a long time. Dude is 29, athletic, strong, has a big heart and a nuclear right hand. WAR WILDER!

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        • Fetta
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          #24
          Originally posted by Elroy1
          I have only 1 question..

          no name fighter, about to fight for the HW championship of the world! Who has never once beaten a credible opponent.

          But has it happened ever before in the past?
          Yes. Apollo Creeds opponent backed out of fight and Rocky Balboa was chosen out of a book cause of nickname. Didnt even have a locker in the gym

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          • Elroy1
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            #25
            Originally posted by BWC
            Why do people keep saying Wilder has a "suspect chin"? what a load of BS. I'm starting to think most people have never seen Wilder actually fight, they just go off what Wilder-haters say on boards like this. Wilder took several nice shots from Stiverne, a 248 lb beast and was never even hurt. Meanwhile people talk about Povetkin's "great chin" as he goes down like 5 times to Wlad's jab.

            Wilder does not have a "suspect chin", what a crock..
            No, Wilder DOES have a an overwhelmingly suspect glass chin.

            He also has extremely suspect stamina.

            In fact both are almost lock ins given the evidence.

            You claim the Stiverne fight proved him, WRONG, it actually exposed him somewhat, and otherwised deepended the mystery.

            Doctors reports were official. Stiverne suffered from a very serious and debilitating condition called Rhabdomyolsis. He had no strength or stamina or energy and could barely throw a punch, or many of them, offering the poorest output possible even for him, a guy with a low output anyway!

            Basically Wilder outboxed a man over 12 rounds who could not punch back or catch him hard enough to hurt him, and was right out of breath, pushed to the limit doing so.

            That's REALLY bad!

            I think that Wilder vs a healthy Stiverne would be more closely even, I would edge Stiverne in a rematch.

            I think that the Arreola that Stiverne beat would utterly destroy Wilder.

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