Why do people act like Floyd is in a league of his own?

[Scipio2009]

Ok, this is kinda a ****** intro since I posed the question. The man is a great boxer and is undefeated for so many years, true! remarkable career.. but... people make it seem like skill wise there is nothing else remotely close to him in boxing today.

I think Rigondeaux, Gonzales, Lomachenko and Ward all have ATG skills too and are not that far off him at all.

Because Floyd Mayweather Jr has been a professional fighter for nearly 20 years, nearly 19 of which at the world-level, and he's been in maybe five tough fights, with only one where most folks can make an objective case that the fight was in the balance. You add that he's still the p4p best fighter on the planet, at an age where nearly every other fighter to put on a pair of gloves was finished (Hopkins, Archie Moore, and Sugar Ray Robinson being the noted exceptions), and there's really no argument.

Andre Ward, the closest to making a case, only has 6 years of fighting at world-level (with a ton of inactivity mixed in).

If 2020 comes, and Andre Ward is still dominating things (I'd imagine he'd be the light heavyweight kingpin, possibly looking to dabble at cruiserweight, as he waited to see if a winnable heavyweight title fight would emerge), you can make the case for him.

None of the other names mentioned have the type of longevity needed to get into a conversation with Floyd

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Floyd is way better than anyone around....


Ward comes close but has nowhere near the skills or longevity..

Rigo.. Lmao, dude gets rocked and dropped by every random journeymen he fights...



Floyd is levels above anyne in the game.., manny was close but got totally undressed by floyd...and yeah his *****ass fanboys will make every excuse, and floyd will just drag manny again in rematch

[GRIP STACCIN]

is he not???????

if not,,,who else is in his leauge?

[b00g13man]

well rounded lmfao hahahahaha that's a joke

You post like you don't know what it means to be well rounded.

[BoxingIsGreat]

He is. I feel great to have witnessed such exceptional skills in the past 15 or so years of being a boxing fan. Thank you, Floyd!

[Shogunofharlem1]

If this was a different boxing era than maybe things would be different but the truth is a huge percentage of the guys in those divisions are too basic. There is swiss cheese in most of their boxing games. Personally I think its because of lack of competition. These guys are not pushing themselves. They (there are exceptions) are skating by on fighting guys that their styles work against. When they step up to a real elite they have no experience to draw from. He pulls them apart because of it. Hes in a league of his own because he has evolved over time with very good competition. Demolishing journeymen will not help against someone this polished, dedicated, and talented.

[-Kev-]

Rigondeaux is very good, but he is susceptible to KD's. Mayweather wasn't stunned by a punch real bad until like 140? vs Corley. Lomachenko lost to a guy that Floyd would have schooled. You can say Floyd would have had a tough time too if he fought Salido in his 2 fights, but then I can counter that by saying Lomachenko had 397 amateur fights to Floyd's 90 something. And Lomachenko had already fought pro style boxing before starting actual pro. Floyd with that many amateur rounds boxed would have destroyed Salido in his first fight, he was a beast at 130, Salido-Loma was a FW fight I know, but P4P Floyd destroys Salido in his 1st, 2nd, 10th, 15th, or last fight, speaking of 130 only.

That other guy doesn't deserve his name mentioned in my rebuttal. He's no where near any HOF'er of note, let alone near Floyd Mayweather Jr, an ATG.

[elfag]

He is in a league of his own. 38 years old and his reflexes are off the charts. How many other guys still had reflexes, not handspeed but reflexes at that age? SRL, Ali, Jones, Whitaker, all of those guys were shot by then.

Also how many guys have his work ethic? Hopkins, and the K brothers, thats about it in recent times. A lot of guys fall off once they get to the top and party, drink ect either get fat or on drugs inbetween fights but hes stayed on top for almost 2 decades now.

Hes cleaned out two divisions, pac was supposed to be the 2nd best all this time and it was a glorified sparring session for floyd. You have to literally go up to GGG who is 20 pounds bigger on fight night with a monster punch to find someone who stands a chance. Theres no more boogymen under 170 that they have left for floyd.

[RED REP]

I dig Loma & Rigo, but they've done **** in the pro game compared to Mayweather.

I think anyone who's had an exceptional career like Mayweather & been top 3 P4P for virtually their whole career would & should be considered in a league of their own.

Nearly a decade as #1 P4P.

Truly amazing.

[Fists_of_Fury]

Ok, this is kinda a ****** intro since I posed the question. The man is a great boxer and is undefeated for so many years, true! remarkable career.. but... people make it seem like skill wise there is nothing else remotely close to him in boxing today.

I think Rigondeaux, Gonzales, Lomachenko and Ward all have ATG skills too and are not that far off him at all.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. stands alone when it comes to skills compared to anyone in boxing today with ease! Floyd is proven over time and with a who's who on his resume. Name another fighter that gets criticized no matter the opponent choice or the way he wins even if the opponents are a legit ranked opponent in his weight class, rated P4P, or a World Championship Title holder. Floyd could fight himself and it would be characterized as a cherry pick if he beat himself... that's how good he is that his haters will never be satisfied unless he gets an L. It's so pathetic that numerous haters have even voiced that they would enjoy a complete robbery just so that he has a loss on his record lol. 16 years and 8 months since winning his 1st World Championship Title until now and he's currently multiple World Champion at multiple weight classes while still Undefeated... who else has done that?


Here are some interesting stats that you can compare those guys all combined against just Floyd alone to see why he stands alone.


Floyd Mayweather Jr.: 21 Past/Current World Champions Defeated. 5 Division World Champion. 4 Division Lineal World Champion. 11x World Championship(Minor & Regional excluded) Title Holder(could be 12 if Floyd would've payed for Mosley's WBA 147lbs title when they fought). 25-0(10 KO) in World Title Fights. 23-0(7 KO) against Past/Current World Champions. 14x's Headlining PPV. Universally recognized as the P4P King and PPV King.

Past/Current Champions Defeated: Genaro Hernandez, Gregorio Vargas, Diego Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo, Demarcus Corley, Arturo Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez, Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz, Miguel Cotto, Robert Guerrero, Saul "Canelo" Alvarez, Marcos Maidana, and Manny Pacquiao(a.k.a. #48).



Andre Ward: 5 Past/Current World Champions Defeated. 1 Division World Champion. 1 Division Lineal World Champion. 2x World Championship Title Holder. 7-0(1 KO) in World Championship Title Fights. 5-0(1 KO) against Past/Current World Champions. Never headlined PPV and never universally recognized the P4P #1 fighter.

Past/Current Champions Defeated: Mikkel Kessler, Sakio Bika, Arthur Abraham, Carl Froch, and Chad Dawson.


Roman Gonzales: 7 Past/Current World Champions Defeated. 3 Division World Champion. 0 Division Lineal World Champion. 3x World Championship Title Holder. 12-0 (8 KO) in World Championship Title Fights. 7-0 (5 KO) against Past/Current World Champions. Never headlined PPV and never universally recognized the P4P #1 fighter.

Past/Current Champions Defeated: Yutaka Niida, Katsunari Takayama, Ramon Garcia Hirales, Juan Francisco Estrada, Francisco Rodriguez Jr., Edgar Sosa, and Akira Yaegashi


Guillermo Rigondeaux: 4 Past/Current World Champions Defeated. 1 Division World Champion. 0 Division Lineal World Champion. 2x World Championship Title Holder. 7-0(4 KO) in World Championship Title Fights. 4-0 (1 KO) against Past/Current World Champions. Never headlined PPV and never universally recognized the P4P #1 fighter.

Past/Current Champions Defeated: Ricardo Cordoba, Rico Ramos, Nonito Donaire, and Joseph Agbeko.


Vasyl Lomachenko: 1 Past/Current World Champion Defeated. 1 Divion World Champion. 0 Division Lineal World Champion. 1x World Championship Title Holder. 1-1 (0 KO) in World Championship Title Fights. 1-1(0 KO) against Past/Current World Champions. Never headlined PPV and never universally recognized the P4P #1 fighter.

Past/Current Champion Defeated. Gary Russell Jr.


So Floyd vs the others combined results:

21 > 17 Past/Current World Champions Defeated.

4 > 1 Lineal Division Championship Titles

5 > 4 Division World Championship Titles(note* Ward, Loma, Chocolotito, and Rigo are all only single division champs atm lol)

Record in World Championship Title Fights is 25-0 (10 KO) > 27-1 (13 KO).

Record against Past/Current World Championship Title Holders is 23-0 (7 KO) > 17-1 (7 KO).

There is no comparison in resume because Floyd has that by a mile. Floyd has made great opposition look ordinary and he's done that to better guys than any of the other guys have even fought yet... that in itself imo is why he's light years ahead of the others to me.