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  • #51
    Originally posted by Ilpo View Post
    That is where the fight is won, agreed. But I believe that Khans speed and movement will win it for him.

    Superior is pretty weird thing to say here. Based on what? Porter -fight?
    Better jab and timing

    Greater composure, which allows him to be the better thinker

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    • #52
      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
      for starters he got baited into throwing a right uppercut at a long distance, which opened him up for Garcia's crispy counter left that was the beginning of the end

      His career has largely been smoke and mirrors ever since losing to Garcia. They tried to match him up favorable. Even then he went 7-5 with Julio Diaz, someone who can't quite put it all together at the higher levels.

      Amir often panics and will either brawl or run. His lack of ring instincts devoid him of the composure to come up with adjustments
      Have not seen those habits in his latest fights. All fighters can have off nights. Even Floyd has had them. As I wrote before, he has learned to calm himself very well, and stick to the game plan. His instinct is to go to war. That has not favoured him. Now, different story. Some dude called Wladimir could also change his style according to his strenghts. I believe Khan has done the same.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
        Better jab and timing

        Greater composure, which allows him to be the better thinker
        Might be. Not so sure about the jab though. Khan has reflexes, speed and more power (arguably). And better (faster) movement. This is a good fight. To say that either is "superior" is foolish. I believe 60-40 Khan.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Ilpo View Post
          Might be. Not so sure about the jab though. Khan has reflexes, speed and more power (arguably). And better (faster) movement. This is a good fight. To say that either is "superior" is foolish. I believe 60-40 Khan.
          Speed can be tamed by winning the jab game, which is very likely when you got the better stick.

          Good countering will also discourage someone from putting they punches together to fully actualize the benefits of their speed

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          • #55
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
            Speed can be tamed by winning the jab game, which is very likely when you got the better stick.

            Good countering will also discourage someone from putting they punches together to fully actualize the benefits of their speed
            That is true. BUT if the faster guy gets his shots off first.. Well you are in trouble. Kell is no master counterer. He is a straight up conventional boxer-puncher. Khan is great at throwing combinations and getting out. He is now a better fifgter he was against Garcia etc. And he did not do badly at that stage of his career either. Lots of good wins. Better record than Brook has. Easily.

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            • #56
              What happens when Khan's punch output drops after Floyd counters him?

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              • #57
                Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
                for starters he got baited into throwing a right uppercut at a long distance, which opened him up for Garcia's crispy counter left that was the beginning of the end. This suggests Amir doesn't have a good understanding of distance and timing.

                His career has largely been smoke and mirrors ever since losing to Garcia. They tried to match him up favorable. Even then he went 7-5 with Julio Diaz, someone who can't quite put it all together at the higher levels.

                Amir often panics and will either brawl or run. His lack of ring instincts devoid him of the composure to come up with adjustments
                I haven't watched the entire Khan-Alexander fight. But he was impressive then, did you see it?

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by VG_Addict View Post
                  What happens when Khan's punch output drops after Floyd counters him?
                  Hopefully we will see that some day! You have no opinion it seems You seem to think that Khan is Shiet and gets KO'd in every fight?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Ilpo View Post
                    1) I really do not get this hate Khan gets.
                    2) He has fought them all, win or lose.
                    Not at welter he hasnt.

                    At welter..... he talks big, fights small, and waits for Mayweather to throw him a bone based off his name/fanbase.

                    I hope that answered your first point.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Ilpo View Post
                      Counterpunchers maybe, if they can time him. But movers and classical boxers khan beats every time becouse of his speed and athletism. Despite his size Chris is not nearly good enough to outbox Amir. Perhaps no-one is.

                      Chris doesnt use his reach that well either. But these are the questions im looking to get the answer to. Decent scrap we have here IMO
                      I think that Khan will outclass Algieri, who is as over-hyped as Provodnikov.

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