Comments Thread For: Amir Khan: I Need To Make a Big Statement With Algieri

[Ilpo]

You still think Floyd would win?

Cant bet against him. But as I said, Khan has the best chances to beat him 14-147.

[Ilpo]

Hey Ilpo

He was able to beat Provo, who is an above average fighter, so Chris is at least decent.

It's a combination of Chris being decent, Amir not being very good (although clearly more talented than Chris), and Chris benefiting from having a tactical advantage due to styles.

I won't be picking Chris in many fights, but I believe he can beat Brandon Rios, Amir Khan, Chaves, Devon, Guerrero, etc level fighters.

Very true, but Khan is on another level compared to Provo. Provo can be outboxed, since he is a brawler.

That is where we disagree. IMO Khan is VERY good. His technical ability plus his talent.. Amazing combination. Behind Floyd I rank him to be the leader of the pack at 147. He is still a young guy, still learning.

All of these guys you are talking about are ofcourse "above average" They are world level beaters. Do you know what "average" means?

Tactical advantage is CLEARLY on Khans side here. Algieri showed against Manny that he is not at his best against speed. This is going to be a boxingmatch where Khan shows the difference in class. But as I said I hope it is not a walk in a park. Nobody gains if it is.

[GrandpaBernard]

Very true, but Khan is on another level compared to Provo. Provo can be outboxed, since he is a brawler.

That is where we disagree. IMO Khan is VERY good. His technical ability plus his talent.. Amazing combination. Behind Floyd I rank him to be the leader of the pack at 147. He is still a young guy, still learning.

All of these guys you are talking about are ofcourse "above average" They are world level beaters. Do you know what "average" means?

Tactical advantage is CLEARLY on Khans side here. Algieri showed against Manny that he is not at his best against speed. This is going to be a boxingmatch where Khan shows the difference in class. But as I said I hope it is not a walk in a park. Nobody gains if it is.

I split divisions into tiers

At the top you have Floyd who has godlike skill. His abilities transcend eras

Next tier are the Keith 1 Time, Errol Spence, and manny pac level guys.

Third tier would be Timothy Bradley, Marcos Maidana, and Kell Brook

Fourth tier is Shawn Porter and Amir Khan

final is Chris Algieri, Guerrero, Berto, Chaves, etc

Amir's talent is handspeed. His ring instincts are horrible. Best fighter he could beat imo is Timmeh.

Kell Brook, Keith 1 Time, Spence, and Maidana lay his azz out. Kell would surprise everyone by handling Amir with relative ease

[Ilpo]

I split divisions into tiers

At the top you have Floyd who has godlike skill. His abilities transcend eras

Next tier are the Keith 1 Time, Errol Spence, and manny pac level guys.

Third tier would be Timothy Bradley, Marcos Maidana, and Kell Brook

Fourth tier is Shawn Porter and Amir Khan

final is Chris Algieri, Guerrero, Berto, Chaves, etc

Amir's talent is handspeed. His ring instincts are horrible. Best fighter he could beat imo is Timmeh.

Kell Brook, Keith 1 Time, Spence, and Maidana lay his azz out. Kell would surprise everyone by handling Amir with relative ease

Couldnt disagree more. IMO Khan is the favourite against Thurman and Brook about 60-40, and a huge favourite against the rest. Khan already beat Maidana, remember? Sure, both guys have fixed some flaws, but I see Khan winning even more convincingly.

[VG_Addict]

OK, what are Khan's technical skills?

[FrankieBruno]

OK, what are Khan's technical skills?

he doesnt have any, is that what you want to hear?

now move on...

[Ilpo]

OK, what are Khan's technical skills?

Well, he has a very long and illustrous amateur career, wich have provided him the basics. As i suspect you do know this. His movement, jab, angles and stance are all very much top class. His punch output all around is very good.

Im intriqued to hear your version of this. How do you NOT see Khans strenghts? Intriqued, indeed.

[GrandpaBernard]

Couldnt disagree more. IMO Khan is the favourite against Thurman and Brook about 60-40, and a huge favourite against the rest. Khan already beat Maidana, remember? Sure, both guys have fixed some flaws, but I see Khan winning even more convincingly.

Kell is the superior outfighter and good at countering. THis is bad news for Amir.

[GrandpaBernard]

Well, he has a very long and illustrous amateur career, wich have provided him the basics. As i suspect you do know this. His movement, jab, angles and stance are all very much top class. His punch output all around is very good.

Im intriqued to hear your version of this. How do you NOT see Khans strenghts? Intriqued, indeed.

for starters he got baited into throwing a right uppercut at a long distance, which opened him up for Garcia's crispy counter left that was the beginning of the end. This suggests Amir doesn't have a good understanding of distance and timing.

His career has largely been smoke and mirrors ever since losing to Garcia. They tried to match him up favorable. Even then he went 7-5 with Julio Diaz, someone who can't quite put it all together at the higher levels.

Amir often panics and will either brawl or run. His lack of ring instincts devoid him of the composure to come up with adjustments

[Ilpo]

That is where the fight is won, agreed. But I believe that Khans speed and movement will win it for him.

Superior is pretty weird thing to say here. Based on what? Porter -fight?