Povetkin vs Mike Perez RBR, undercard & discussion

[Guest]

If Wilder took a big money fight with Povetkin in Russia then Haymon would get his 15% cut but it would still be quite a risk, a lot harder to build him up as some legitimate heavyweight champion to the American audiences if he has been defeated by a Russian. If you look at Haymon's vast stable who can actually be this massive crossover star besides Wilder? Look at Wilder's first defence, it doesn't look to me like Haymon will take any risks, at least not any time soon. I hope i'm wrong though, Wilder-Povetkin is a good match-up.

I definitely hear what you are screaming, for sure.

The issue is, it's a lot of money now or bit by bit until the big money comes later. and that's a maybe.

I mean who is gonna make Wilder a crossover star if he doesn't fight anyone.

The only name I can really think of that might bring cash is Fury, or if they drag Haye or someone like that out- but those are dangerous fights too.

[BattleAxePurist]

Just checked one of the messages from my elite stable of carrier pigeons and it seems PBC belt production shifts are working through the night in Honduras to make sure they'll be ready the moment Wilder is done KO'ing Molina.

[STEELHEAD]

WTF perezs buttt got ****** bigtime!

[PainfromUkraine]

Anyone su****ious of PED use for Povetkin? He is knocking guys out that have never been stopped before and in scary fashion. It's not even accumulation - he is essentially ending fights with 1 punch, something even Wlad isn't doing lately. He was never this powerful prior to the Wlad fight, and with Russian athletes known for doping...all i'm saying is, it's a bit fishy and I don't buy that Povetkin becomes this offensive beast just due to being in slightly better shape and perhaps more committed.

I may make a separate thread on this if it sparks a discussion.

[dan_cov]

Anyone su****ious of PED use for Povetkin? He is knocking guys out that have never been stopped before and in scary fashion. It's not even accumulation - he is essentially ending fights with 1 punch, something even Wlad isn't doing lately. He was never this powerful prior to the Wlad fight, and with Russian athletes known for doping...all i'm saying is, it's a bit fishy and I don't buy that Povetkin becomes this offensive beast just due to being in slightly better shape and perhaps more committed.

I may make a separate thread on this if it sparks a discussion.

I think Mike was in rubbish shape and just got caught cold with a good counter he didn't see, I even noted he looked dry & didn't look like he'd warmed up but yh it does make me wonder, even thought it myself. Something doesn't seem right.
Povetkin was never a huge puncher, he'd wear you down via accumulation all of a sudden he is knocking proven granite chinned opposition senseless.
It doesn't add up at his age.

[REMOVE SHARK 55]

Anyone su****ious of PED use for Povetkin? He is knocking guys out that have never been stopped before and in scary fashion. It's not even accumulation - he is essentially ending fights with 1 punch, something even Wlad isn't doing lately. He was never this powerful prior to the Wlad fight, and with Russian athletes known for doping...all i'm saying is, it's a bit fishy and I don't buy that Povetkin becomes this offensive beast just due to being in slightly better shape and perhaps more committed.

I may make a separate thread on this if it sparks a discussion.

Since losing to Wlad he's looked like a monster. Prior to fighting Wlad I wasn't overly impressed with him or his record.

[PainfromUkraine]

I think Mike was in rubbish shape and just got caught cold with a good counter he didn't see, I even noted he looked dry & didn't look like he'd warmed up but yh it does make me wonder, even thought it myself. Something doesn't seem right.
Povetkin was never a huge puncher, he'd wear you down via accumulation all of a sudden he is knocking proven granite chinned opposition senseless.
It doesn't add up at his age.

Yeah man...seems very strange. In theory after the embarrassing result v Wlad at home (especially the scorecards of 119-104 or whatever they were), and after somewhat coasting through his career, perhaps Povetkin and his team (who I believe were changed, he has a new coach now, and I assume a whole new entourage?) thought it would be better to take some shortcuts and go down a different route. Really, I wouldn't doubt PED's, but as long as he is fighting in Moscow he will never be caught for it. That's why probably his team will try their utmost to win purse bids so they can have more control over making fights).

I'll stick a thread and poll up on the subject.

[BattleAxePurist]

Anyone su****ious of PED use for Povetkin? He is knocking guys out that have never been stopped before and in scary fashion. It's not even accumulation - he is essentially ending fights with 1 punch, something even Wlad isn't doing lately. He was never this powerful prior to the Wlad fight, and with Russian athletes known for doping...all i'm saying is, it's a bit fishy and I don't buy that Povetkin becomes this offensive beast just due to being in slightly better shape and perhaps more committed.

I may make a separate thread on this if it sparks a discussion.

Takam went into the 9th or 10th rd don't remember , this fight might just be a case of got caught early but if you look at both KO's they were similar in that the punches landed accurate/clean inside the guard right on the chin.

[LSKennedy]

Anyone su****ious of PED use for Povetkin? He is knocking guys out that have never been stopped before and in scary fashion. It's not even accumulation - he is essentially ending fights with 1 punch, something even Wlad isn't doing lately. He was never this powerful prior to the Wlad fight, and with Russian athletes known for doping...all i'm saying is, it's a bit fishy and I don't buy that Povetkin becomes this offensive beast just due to being in slightly better shape and perhaps more committed.

I may make a separate thread on this if it sparks a discussion.

Charr's crap and Takam was worn down with an accumulation of punches, with a late stoppage. Perez was never good either and could've just got caught cold.

[dan_cov]

Even still its mightily su****ious to me how he couldn't even stop the likes of Firtha and much lesser and lesser durable fighters he hit with everything but the kitchen sink. He couldn't put a dent in a cruiserweight (I know Hucks tough but still) now all of a sudden he is flattening opponents.

I'm a fan I've followed his career for years but IMO its real su****ious. He was never a big puncher by any stretch all of a sudden he is a one punch knockout artist getting highlight reel K.O after highlight reel K.O at the age of 35? Hmm.