Roman Gonzalez: P4P #2 and Undefeated? That's TOTAL CRAP!

[Cut Man]

Why do you guys have to disrespect Roman Gonzalez. He's the best P4P fighter in the world after Floyd Mayweather. Officially on Ring Magazine and here on Boxing Scene.

Just because he fights in lighter weight classes, He's still a 3 weight division world champion with potential to go up and dominate at Superfly and Bantam in the next few years.

43 Fights 43 win 37 Knock Outs. This guy is an outstanding fighter, A extremely skilled boxer and he entertains the fans. Don't hate on him just because he's a smaller fighter

I don't think their a guy under 120lb who could beat this guy

[Tay Roc]

Josie Harris #39.5. Rated lower than Robert Guerrero, but higher than Marcos Maidana. Another notch in the belt.

[Mike D]

Josie Harris #39.5. Rated lower than Robert Guerrero, but higher than Marcos Maidana. Another notch in the belt.

lmfao

[Weebler I]

Why do you guys have to disrespect Roman Gonzalez. He's the best P4P fighter in the world after Floyd Mayweather. Officially on Ring Magazine and here on Boxing Scene.

Just because he fights in lighter weight classes, He's still a 3 weight division world champion with potential to go up and dominate at Superfly and Bantam in the next few years.

43 Fights 43 win 37 Knock Outs. This guy is an outstanding fighter, A extremely skilled boxer and he entertains the fans. Don't hate on him just because he's a smaller fighter

I don't think their a guy under 120lb who could beat this guy

The vast majority of people simply don't know much about him so they make ill-informed comments.

My understanding from people who do know is that he has already had a HOF career.

[Psylence83]

Let me just say, I appreciate Roman Gonzalez tenacity and his fighting style. He reminds me of the fighters of the older generations where they showed great skill but also employed the attitude to constantly find a way to end their opponent in dramatic fashion. His recent fight on the undercard of Gennady Golovkin against Edgar Sosa was a great display of skill, power and action against a former champion. To show the ability to get him out of there in 2 rounds was spectacular and noteworthy.

However, he is not what the powers that be is trying to tell the public and boxing ignorant. His style is casual friendly but the guy is being hyped up more than he deserve to be at this point. Basically putting this guy at P4P #2 is absolutely wrong and premature. People lets not forget what happened last time. You guys are creating another #48(Pacquiao) situation where American viewers are told this guy is the most exciting fighter to watch and also has top notch skill much above their competition. He's not meant to be there just yet.. not just yet.

There should be protest about this guy's place on the P4P list, as he has legitimately been outboxed , outskilled and beaten before soundly. We do not need another premature hyped fighter where he is not what the narrative said about him matches up with his overall career. He is not an undefeated fighter in this sport, he has been gifted. The Mexican Juan Francisco Estrada should be P4P #2 if we all feel Roman Gonzalez should have that position. He legitimately beaten and outclassed Gonzalez in their showdown.

Yes, just like the narrative between #48 and the Great Professor Juan Manuel Marquez, one fighter has rightfully won but been thrown into the abyss of shadows after being robbed to promote the fighter the powers that be wants to bring to American audience forefront and collect their dollars. Talk of a rematch forgotten and years go by. Juan Francisco Estrado continues to outbox and stop his opponents in beautiful technical fashion but gets no coverage or promotion to build his fanbase. Roman Gonzalez however gets to take on less opponents for more exposure and fed to the global community for bigger pay checks, hoping to drown out any talk of a rematch.

He's not undefeated, and definitely not P4P #2. Watch the fight for yourself and you will see how beautiful Juan Estrado neutralize and outboxed Gonzalez.


One last point. A more secure and correct P4P list that has Gonzalez on it should look like this.

1) Floyd Mayweather
2) Guillermo Rigondeaux
3) Wladimir Klitschko
4) Terrence Crawford
5) Juan Estrada Francisco
6) Timothy Bradley
7) Juan Manuel Marquez
8) Roman Gonzalez
9) Sergey Kovalev
10) Carl Froch
...
...
...
48) Manny Pacquiao

Lets be clear folks, and not make the same mistake so soon.

Rigondeaux seems to get no respect whatsoever, whats the deal? He shows the highest skill beside Mayweather and Ward but is subjected to complete back ended disrespect. Canelo definitely does not deserve to be anywhere above Rigodeaux, no way.

Boxingscene are completely out of depth for propping up a beaten fighter given a gift decision in to the number 2 spot but will removed Andre Ward, that never had a close fight against super elite competiton.

Gonzales was out fought and out boxed by Estrada. Anyone that watched the fight with close intent and unbias who clearly see that Estrada did more work and constant movement and punching to outpoint and hurt Gonzales in their match up. I can only give Gonzalez 3 rounds in their match. Bro please check out their fight, I posted it in my original post. It's entertaining and eye opening of the skill level Estrada possess. Reminds me of how Juan Manuel Marquez tamed #48 in their 3 fights. Also makes sense as to why Juan Manuel Marquez endorse Estrada as the new best Mexican technician.



You obviously didn't watch the fight at all. Estrada was rocking the crap out of Gonzalez with uppercut combinations and using footwork and distance to neutralize the offense of Gonzalez.

Gonzalez at the end of the fight look as depressed as Pacquiao in the third Marquez fight because he knew he lost. Plus look at how mushed in Gonzalez face was in comparison to Estrada's.

Gonzalez skillset is good but Estrada's is greater and has more dimension. The guy was throwing beautiful combinations on a coming forward squared on Gonzalez who seemed to only be looking to let Estrada tire and conserve his own energy. That didn't work as Estrada kept throwing beautiful combinations every round and rocked Gonzalez more times than Gonzalez rocked him. The crowd was pro Gonzalez but it was more quiet times in that fight than cheers due to the constant hook and uppercut combination getting through Gonzalez full guard.

I instruct you to watch the full fight over.. this time without ******* or any other hard drugs. I posted the full fight in my opening post.

I have the fight against Estrada posted in the OP. He did not win but was gifted the fight. Estada threw more combinations and visibly rocked Gonzalez at least 5 times in that fight. He constantly landed punches with beautiful follow ups constantly. Gonzalez mostly threw and looked for one shot majority of the fight.

Geez bro, honestly???
Estrada was clearly beat. Look how accurate gonzalez is and also look how many estrada's punches hit glove. Take note of that and you will see how clearly better he is with offence and defence.
You come accross really bias with what i highlighted. Even the ringside scorer was pro estrada and had it for gonzalez!!! He give the first 3 or 4 for estrada ffs lol

[Suckmedry]

If he was a welter, middle or even a lightweight he would be getting called no.2 without questions, some would probably be pushing him as no.1

and if he was a 175lber or a HW...my god people would think he's the second coming

[Suckmedry]

Estrada did not outclass Gonzalez.

Have you even seen that fight?? The only one outclassed was Estrada.

tell me about it dude...where do these morons come from??

[Tom Cruise]

I had the Estrada fight closer than the judges but Estrada didnt win, and he definitely didn't outclass RG lol.

[Tom Cruise]

As a Rigo fan im willing to concede that he should be shuffled down the P4P lists. Whatever the reason for him not veing able to fight the best, the fact is he isnt fighting the best. A win over Donaire and a couple other solid wins will only sustain you for so long.

I live in hope that he can get 1 or 2 more big fights before the end of his career

[goodvibes]

You talk about prematurely hyping a fighter.. Yet put Rigondeaux as #2 P4P? The heck?

Rigo is good, but get real. The guy is 30 years old with only 15 pro fights. He got dropped TWICE against some dude from Japan. His only nameworthy opponent he beat was Donaire. Oh yeah, he got dropped in that fight too.

People shouldn't make P4P lists off of hype.