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  • The Gambler1981
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    #81
    It is the American way, blame the automobile for buggy whip companies going out of business.

    That *****ing and moaning will never stop progress though, because that vocal minority will either get with the program or get clowned by everyone who has car while they are still in a buggy.

    I am sure Haymon is a ruthless business man who subscribes to the "greed is good" theory. Without that desire to have more and control, there is no advancement. To some there is no staying the same something is either growing or dying. I know for damn sure the last 20 years I have been watching boxing it was not a growth industry.

    I know that is not because people enjoy fist fighting any less.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #82
      Originally posted by joseph5620
      One thing I've learned in life is that racist people think they are slick with their comments. As if people can't read them. They believe they have to literally use the N word to reveal what they truly are

      This article was transparent and you would think someone of Hauser's stature would know better.
      I don't know what to make of this series but his thinking and all that bashing is the past. It's like they don't realize they're on a sinking ship. Al Haymon is about 10 years ahead of his competitors.

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      • big_james10
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        #83
        Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
        You've made some EXCELLENT points , but unfortunately have surmised the wrong conclusion . It's not Mayweather per se , as it is the Mayweather archetypal figure/image that so wonderfully disturbs and agitates the white racist . The archetypal image I speak of is Black,bold,brash,trash-talking,rich,confident,arrogant and his own boss in every sense of the word with no white puppet strings attached . This is why u always hear racist on here talk about confidant black fighters needing to be humbled ! The best example I can give u is John McEnroe who was All the adjectives I mentioned earlier about Floyd but was white and white people absolutely LOVED this guy , as whiny as he was they didn't care . He even through temper tantrums on the court like a 5 year old and white America still adored him . So it's not about Floyd per se , as much as it is about what Floyd represents to the white racist psyche .
        You are absolutely right. It has more to do with the fact that Mayweather is a successful black man than it does with Mayweather himself.

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        • SugarRaRobinson
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          #84
          Originally posted by The Gambler1981
          It is the American way, blame the automobile for buggy whip companies going out of business.

          That *****ing and moaning will never stop progress though, because that vocal minority will either get with the program or get clowned by everyone who has car while they are still in a buggy.

          I am sure Haymon is a ruthless business man who subscribes to the "greed is good" theory. Without that desire to have more and control, there is no advancement. To some there is no staying the same something is either growing or dying. I know for damn sure the last 20 years I have been watching boxing it was not a growth industry.

          I know that is not because people enjoy fist fighting any less.
          What American way , the racist American way ? B..ching and moaning will never stop American progress ??? R u speaking about KKK type of progress ? The vocal minority will either get with the program or get clowned ??? Can u be kind enough to delineate that program for all of us please ?

          This post sounds like you've actually accepted my proposal in post #72 . Let me be the first one to say that I'm proud of u !!!

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          • bigdunny1
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            #85
            Originally posted by sicko
            So fighters shouldn't want more money then, they should just make what ever you want them to make and just shut up and fight who you want them to fight? Fans are extremely Ignorant and comments like this is PROOF who the *** am I, you or any other FAN to tell a fighter what he is or is not worth.

            Nobody is stealing anything, he is giving fighters Options, how the *** is that Stealing Fighters if he makes fighters better offers than what their previous promoters was offering to join his team
            Stealing is exactly what it is since he's been sued twice and forced to settle for millions for stealing fighters from other promotions. And again as a fan I want to see the best fights I could care less if a fighter gets 1mil or 2mil. And the key point is this usually comes at the expense of the quality of fights. Bum fights that most networks would never pay for Haymon uses his leverage to force them to pay for. So you get his fighters constantly in mismatched fights. Again good for the fighter you get to inflate your record with easy fights and because you with Haymon he gets you overpaid to duck tougher fights. But unless you are a fighters accountant or his hype man on the payroll you shouldn't care either if the fighter pockets more money for easy fights. If he was getting fighters more money and giving the fans what they want I would cheer him but he's not so us the fans are the ones who suffer because he is the roadblock to fights we want to see

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            • bigdunny1
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              #86
              Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
              Lets call a truce ; If the racist bloggers on here just admit you hate Haymon cause he's black (not because he's ruining boxing) , I promise not to criticize or troll u for your personal convictions . If you admit you hate Ward because u can't stomach the sight of a confidant black champion (not because u lie and say he's boring) I'll offer the same pledge . If u just admit u hate most if not all black fighters simply because their black (not because of any of the silly justifications you've used in the past) I solemnly swear to not bully , ridicule or belittle you in any way . Now are u man enough to accept this truce ?
              I'm black you idiot. Half black half puerto rican to be exact you f'ing idiot. has nothing to do with hating haymon cause he's black you fool. He blocks the fights I want to see that's why I call him out. He is beefing with all the other major promoters making it impossible to see the best fighters go toe to toe. And I've NEVER made a single negative comment about Ward. But your racist arse can't fathom that if you don't like haymon it just might not be because of his color.
              Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-21-2015, 02:32 PM.

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              • SugarRaRobinson
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                #87
                Originally posted by bigdunny1
                I'm black you idiot. Half black half puerto rican to be exact you f'ing idiot. has nothing to do with hating haymon cause he's black you fool. He blocks the fights I want to see that's why I call him out. He is beefing with all the other major promoters making it impossible to see the best fighters go toe to toe. And I've NEVER made a single negative comment about Ward. But your racist arse can't fathom that if you don't like haymon it just might not be because of his color.
                I can't tell as you've seemed to latch on to this anti-Haymon hate like the rest of these bigots . Question ; what r some of the fights you'd like to see that Haymon is blocking ? And furthermore , why to u give all the blame to Haymon for blocking fights ? Why don't u give equal if not more blame to HBO for this standoff ? Besides it was HBO who became very contemptuous towards Haymon after the Floyd move to show time . Prior to that to the Floyd move Haymon would use the two different networks interchangeably or whoever was offering the highest bids but HBO's cheap azz became possessive , expecting Haymon to spend all his money with them so Haymon bounced in rufusal to let one cheap azz network (HBO) control him . All networks r scummy , so the nerve of HBO or any network expecting someone to be loyal to them

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
                  What American way , the racist American way ? B..ching and moaning will never stop American progress ??? R u speaking about KKK type of progress ? The vocal minority will either get with the program or get clowned ??? Can u be kind enough to delineate that program for all of us please ?

                  This post sounds like you've actually accepted my proposal in post #72 . Let me be the first one to say that I'm proud of u !!!
                  WTF is this babbling bull****.

                  Capitalism, true capitalism only sees one color green~ Al Haymon is a great capitalist so I have absolutely no ****ing clue what you are babbling about.

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                  • goldenbear
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                    #89
                    Brother Haymon getting to powerful

                    Haymon is getting fighters more money than they've ever seen and now there a commission opened up on him....Typical bs every time a brother gets a crumb we need audits and investigation to see how n the world that happened so we can stop that n the future

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                    • SugarRaRobinson
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                      #90
                      For example ; everyone wanted to see Stevenson vs Kovalev , they issued a purse bid ,HBO/Duva knew that Haymon/Shotime /PBC would be willing to pay more for that fight than they would so they backed out . Who's at fault here ? In a free market the highest bidder should win but instead of conceding HBO/Duva decides to take the ball and go home so no one can enjoy the game anymore . So even though your half puerto and black u may be unknowingly not viewing the picture from its proper prospective

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