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  • SUBZER0ED
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    #101
    If you're going to tell a Biblical story (or any story), get it straight, Hauser. Haman didn't raise himself up, Persian king Xerxes did, though the Bible doesn't say why. And he wasn't hung, he was impaled on a 75 foot stake, for plotting to exterminate all of the ***s by Xerxes' command, because Mordecai, a ***, refused to honor him (Haman). What Haman didn't know, is Mordecai had favor with the king for exposing an assassination plot. Further, the kings's wife Esther, whom he loved very much, was Mordecai's cousin. Xerxes didn't know Esther was a *** when he originally approved the extermination of her people. But when he found out from Esther, and caught Haman on her couch begging for mercy, he became enraged and had him impaled on the pole that Haman had erected to kill Mordecai. How a parallel between Al Haymon and Haman in the Bible can be drawn is beyond me.

    Haman’s Plot to Destroy the Jews - After these events, King Xerxes honored Haman son of Hammedatha, the Agagite, elevating him and giving him a seat of honor higher than that of all the other nobles. All the royal officials at the king’s gate knelt down and paid honor to Haman, for the king had commanded this concerning him. But Mordecai would not kneel down or pay him honor. Then the royal officials at the king’s gate asked Mordecai, “Why do you disobey the king’s command?” Day after day they spoke to him but he refused to comply. Therefore they told Haman about it to see whether Mordecai’s behavior would be tolerated, for he had told them he was a Jew. When Haman saw that Mordecai would not kneel down or pay him honor, he was enraged.

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    • SUBZER0ED
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      #102
      Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
      The race card is not something that has to be thrown down or played when we are all living inside a house made of racist cards (USA) . It's all around u , please open your eyes . Even the very money in your pocket that u trade everyday has slave owners faces on it .
      I'm well aware of racism, son. It's part of human nature, and will never entirely disappear. But, things are a lot better than they once were. You talk about slave owner's faces on our currency, when was the last time you picked cotton? Hell, when was the first time? Never.

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        #103
        Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson
        Haymon is a manipulative snake ? How so , and if so why r u singling him out ? Steve Jobs was WELL DOCUMENTED AZZHOLE , Zuckerburg , same thing but I guess that's what it takes to dominate any industry in American . Steve Jobs , although a well documented azzhole is celebrated as a genius , Pioneer and amazing business man .
        Singling Haymon out?? That's what this thread is about! If you're buying what Haymon's selling, that's your choice. I don't buy it. I think he's selling bull**** at a premium price.

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        • bigsmoothh
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          #104
          Originally posted by bigdunny1
          Fighters have not complained because Haymon is overbidding to steal away fighters. Signing to Haymon means he will get you overpaid for easy fights. He forces his fighters to duck tough fights. Look at Khan he hasn't had a real fight in over 2 years. Look at who Wilder is fighting next and the bums he's been fighting for years. No doubt Haymon is good for fighters he avoids risky fights and uses his leverage to get overpaid for easy fights. Everybody knows that...But how is any of this good for boxing fans? I could care less if Danny Garcia gets paid over 1 mil to fight a bum like Salka. I only care about good fights and more often then not Haymon is the road block to good fights.

          Haymon's end game is simple. He wants to build the PBC brand and then create his own boxing league like UFC and sell it to the highest network bidder. And PBC creating their own league where he has his own belts his fighters can only fight each other is not good for boxing. Haymon already refuses to work with other promoters and constantly forces his fighters to take fights nobody wants to see. If he was at least pitting all his best fighters against each other for amazing barn burner fights (which he easily could of made PBC be) I would give him a pass. But not only does he refuse to let his fighters face any of the top fighters outside his stable his own fighters don't fight the best in his stable. Why did Broner fight Molina instead of Danny Garcia? Why isn't Khan fighting Thurman? Why isn't Wilder fighting somebody with a pulse? If Haymon already has created a division in boxing why would you think if PBC becomes successful that it won't be harder to make the fights we all want to see? But who cares because look at the size of Broners purse lol

          best post in here, green k sent.

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          • SugarRaRobinson
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            #105
            Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
            I'm well aware of racism, son. It's part of human nature, and will never entirely disappear. But, things are a lot better than they once were. You talk about slave owner's faces on our currency, when was the last time you picked cotton? Hell, when was the first time? Never.
            When's the last time another unarmed black man got 8 shots in his back while trying to escape from a white racist cop ? I think yesterday .

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              #106
              Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
              Yeah, I'm kind of tripping on these young brothers throwing down the race card. Haymon's a manipulative snake, and Mayweather's a boring, defensive fighter with a checkered past and arrogant attitude. WTF is there to like so much about these cats? It's got nothing to do with them being black. An ****** is an ******, period.



              i dont know who you are but you just nailed it. ive asked myself the same thing. it was never about race its about putting on good fights.

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              • SugarRaRobinson
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                #107
                Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                Singling Haymon out?? That's what this thread is about! If you're buying what Haymon's selling, that's your choice. I don't buy it. I think he's selling bull**** at a premium price.
                Singling Haymon out with negative spin is what this thread is about if u choose to buy into him being a boogie man , as it seems you've done . Ad as far as u not buying what Haymon is selling ........ U dont have to because he's made it free for u Sir !

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by HeroBando
                  Really strange reaction. It's pretty important stuff if you're a boxing fan. Non boxing fans wouldn't give a **** of course, but why post on a boxing board?
                  Baffling reaction. Who cares? Any boxing fan who is interested in what is going on, I imagine, which should be pretty much everyone here.

                  This is one of the best written, and most interesting articles about what is going on, you'll read. Hands down Hauser writes the best content about boxing.

                  Interesting info. Very interesting.

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                  • bigdunny1
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by joseph5620
                    Puerto Rican doesn't describe a race. When you compare a race (my father is black) to a nationality it shoes how ignorant you truly are. You don't want to go this route. I'll embarrass you lol.
                    again when did I say Puerto Rican is a race? Now sit down and shut your pie hole.
                    Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-21-2015, 05:03 PM.

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                    • sicko
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                      #110
                      The hate for Haymon is Irrelevant, it is the equivalent of the fans who HATE Dana White and the Zuffa Brothers for "Monopolizing MMA" but still watch all of UFC Events for the fighters. The NFL Commissionaire is Hated, that man gets booed everywhere he goes but the NFL is the biggest Sport in America! You don't have to be liked to be successful, in fact in boxing, being hated= More Money!

                      So calm down with the special agenda vs Haymon, Haymon will be fine and PBC will be fine. PBC is looking for New Fans not the current fans who cry about everything! They know we will show up because we're boxing fans no matter how much some of us complains. They're looking to add a NEW GROUP OF BOXING FANS! Ones who spend more time on Twitter and Instagram than Boxing Forums! Right now PBC is still in the "Getting To Know You" stage, I would hold off on the big matches for now as well and let these fighters fight on PBC a few times. Put them in Showcase fighters let them knock some people out since fans are talking about wanting to see KO's then don't complain about the match ups if all you want to see is a KO. Thurman, Broner, Guerrero, Beterbiev and a few others are going into only their 2nd Matches under PBC while Khan is just now making his Debut on PBC. PBC has TV Deals for Multiple Years not just 1 Year so they have plenty of time to make money and build up a audience.
                      Last edited by sicko; 05-21-2015, 05:05 PM.

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