Pacquiao Clean Punches Against Mayweather

[Divine Hammer]

not my hero and I don't like good for nothing THUGS but your hero is a conman he told everyone he was going to win but instead he let Floyd hug him THE COWARD PAC DIDNT EVEN WANT TO FIGTH IN THE INSIDE .THAT IS WHAT COWARDS DO you want to blame Floyd but Pac the coward is also to blame here

pac didn't want to fight in the inside??? MANY times where manny cornered floyd either in the corner or on the ropes and threw flurries and engaged him! c'mon hahahahahahahaha. the onyl coward that night was the one who CHOSE TO PLAY TAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you frickin thug life reject.

LOL, Floyd pushed on Mannys head to prevent counters...you know the illegal ducking you always cry about, Manny would drop low....round 6 he tried, missed and Manny caught him...we can't help it Floyd is smart and not a dumbass that eats the same punches over and over

floyd is very smart at being a coward. doing whatever it takes to exert the least amount of effort and avoid the least amount of damage and challenges in order to get by with a win. never trying to make a big statement, never trying to excite fight fans everywhere for generations like ali did. you and the rest of you tmt rejects are sad.

who will care about floyd 10 years from now???? the majority of the public still hates his guts and thinks he's a coward.

[ganthet]

You 2 are funny. I put a very good case but all you are doing is talking about putting people on ignore. I had initially even given you credit for stopping with insulting posters and discussing round 3 with these examples.

Now that you see that the round which Floyd fans laughed about when we said should have gone to Manny, is no longer laughable and even been brought up by others that it is a swing round now ...... now you talk about ignoring to deflect. You are just trying to change the subject.

fa real "ignore" is something in a female's arsenal

I want that I'll try to talk to my wife after some imagined insult on my part

More deflection but like usual, no concrete evidence.

At least, we put forth evidence to point out why we think that Manny won more rounds than were given by the judges. Floyd fans do not want to because that will only point to the fight being closer than they first stated. As stated, Floyd fans were laughing and saying round 3 was a clear Floyd round. Breaking it down, we now know that is not the case.

LMAO are Floyd **** riders seriously putting people on ignore right now? And specifically because of this thread? Pathetic LOL!

Let's be real, the ignore button is a puss!es way out of a losing argument. That's a FACT.

And here's another FACT:
90% of the posts in this board are nonsense, ******ed and mostly pure fanboy **** riding bull*****. Heck, even the May-Pac official fight thread is still active right now, and that's partly thanks to Floyd **** riders who have the time and put on the effort to post even more nonsense replies, gifs, memes and other crap as a reply to some of the nonsense that some Pac **** riding fans post over there.

But now these very same Floyd **** riders put some Pac fans in this thread on ignore LOL! And for what exactly? For taking the time and doing the effort to put evidence of gifs and still images (with legit explanations to back them up) to analyze and show the Floyd **** riders that Mayweather was given too much credit for his "punches" and his "evasions"? Again, L-O-L!

And instead of doing the same thing of taking the time to show gifs and frame by frame still images to counter the argument posted by Pac fans and have a meaningful and mature discussion/debate, what do these Floyd **** riders do? They finally use the ignore button on them here on one of the most enlightening and interesting threads in this forum. Seriously, LMAO @ all you Floyd **** riders

[Divine Hammer]

you can see this punch rattle floyd down to his legs hahahahahaha. just look at his left leg do a little wiggle.

[Johnwoo8686]

No you don't know ..... in that fight, the talk was the roppa-dope that Ali was doing. Then of course, the KO of Foreman.

Unlike Ali, Floyd was fighting a one armed fighter and ran, hugged, head-locked, ducked below the waist, pushed off, ......

Another important point is what came out of the 2 fights. In the Ali fight, what was the talk was the above and Ali beating a fighter that he was not supposed to beat (by KO). In the so called "Fight of the century" everyone including the media all made fun of Floyd's hugging fiasco.

The joke in the media/comedians was that if their is a rematch, Floyd will no longer settle for just hugs. He wants a kiss too!

Ali's own trainer called his rope a dope tactics crazy and ******. Ali held WAY more than Mayweather held Pacquiao. Khan last night held more than Floyd did. Ricky Hatton's fights were often clinch fests. The difference between Mayweather Pacquiao and those fights is that it brought out way more casuals this time. Most people who criticize Floyd for "hugging" probably have never seen an Ali fight in full, probably only highlights.

Ali wasn't expected to beat George Foreman for the simpler fact that he had an inferior record at the time. Mayweather Pacquiao had the reverse. Floyd was considered superior which is why people weren't all that impressed. He simply went out and did what he was supposed to do.

[solo20]

pac didn't want to fight in the inside??? MANY times where manny cornered floyd either in the corner or on the ropes and threw flurries and engaged him! c'mon hahahahahahahaha. the onyl coward that night was the one who CHOSE TO PLAY TAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you frickin thug life reject.



floyd is very smart at being a coward. doing whatever it takes to exert the least amount of effort and avoid the least amount of damage and challenges in order to get by with a win. never trying to make a big statement, never trying to excite fight fans everywhere for generations like ali did. you and the rest of you tmt rejects are sad.

who will care about floyd 10 years from now???? the majority of the public still hates his guts and thinks he's a coward.

get out of here with that bull crap YOU LITTLE THUG **** YOUR THUG LIFE YOU SCUM. All Pac the coward had to do was fight Floyd and keep him from hugging him the coward couldn't even cut the ring Pac the coward didn't even try to fight in the inside. the coward look like a clown trying to out box Floyd . all pinoys are butthurt the Mexicans and the flqmotards GOT THE LAST LAUGH ON YOU CLOWNS I KNOW IT HURTS YOOU RIGTH IN THE ASS HE LOST BWAHAH

**** YOUR PINOY THUG LIFE TOO

[IR0NFIST]

Prime for boxers are in thir 30's...especially nowadays.

As fo the fight, scored it a draw, Manny landed the better shots...

This.

He went through all that trouble just to defend a flawed argument.

[IR0NFIST]

Of course Canelo was in his prime! Most, if not all fighters are in their prime at 23. What an utterly daft thing to say. He'd had 43 pro fights over eight years and had been champion for years already, and was not only considered the best champion at 154, but was the unified, lineal jr middleweight champion.

You may differentiate between his absolute peak and being in his prime, and while it may be true for the former (we'll not know that for many years though when we've watched most of his career) it's definitely not for the latter. He was unquestionably in his prime then, just as he is now a little over one year later. He'd fought former veteran champions, current top champions, future HOF veterans, top contenders, brawlers, boxers, southpaws...

Dominating every single round and nearly stopping Mosley is struggling?

Would you say Canelo is in his prime now? He was basically 23, one or so months off, and is now 24. I doubt anyone questions the fact he is in his prime now, nor did they after whipping Angulo a few months after Floyd.

Name one fighter in the history of boxing who was in their prime at 23?!?Are you ****ing serious? I can't believe the utter ****e people bring up here. It's actually much, much, much harder to name fighters who weren't in their prime at 23.
Roberto Duran
Floyd Mayweather
Wilfred Benitez
Mike Tyson
Manny Pacquiao
Ray Leonard
Ray Robinson
Esteban De Jesus
Salvador Sanchez
Wilfredo Gomez
Marco Antonio Barrera
Meldrick Taylor
Erik Morales
Carlos Deleon
Michael Moorer
Edwin Rosario
Tony Canzoneri
Jimmy McLarnin
George Foreman
Pipino Cuevas
Fighting Harada
Manuel Medina
Lionel Rose
Ruben Olivares
Alexis Arguello
Ernesto Marcel
Jorge Arce
Jeff Fenech
Floyd Patterson
Muhammad Ali
Ted Kid Lewis
Naseem Hamed
Ben Villaflor
Hiroki Ioka
Kazuto Ioka
Roman Gonzalez
Oscar Delahoya
Hector Camacho
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Ricardo Arredondo
Alfonso Zamora
Fernando Vargas
Vincente Saldivar
Ismael Laguna
Donald Curry
Juan Francisco Estrada
Mando Ramos
Fernando Montiel
Juan Diaz
...and Canelo Alvarez.

I could literally just keep going on and on and on and on and on. That's just a bunch of guys I reeled out all off the top of my head, because most fighters are in their prime at 22/23. Many of these guys were already at or close to their peak too.

If an experienced, unified, lineal champion at his physical peak isn't in his prime, then no one ever is. He may get a bit better and reach his absolute peak in his mid to late twenties mentally before he physically declines, but that has nothing to do with him not being in his prime now and then. Any that thinks 22/23 year old Duran wasn't in his prime when he destroyed Esteban De Jesus or 23/24 year old Pacquiao when he destroyed Barrera is ****ing daft.

I'm pretty sure the 22 year old Floyd, having annihilated Hernandez and embarrassing Corrales a year or so later wasn't close to his prime either?

Anyone can rattle off a laundry list of names just to make their argument seem credible. Can you explain why you think those aforementioned boxers were in their 'prime'?

There is no definite number to determine when a fighter is in their prime. A guy like Tyson had a young man's style, so he peaked when he was 21-24 years old. On the other hand, skillful boxers like Holyfield, Holmes, and Lewis were still winning big fights well into their 30s.

Bernard Hopkins was taking out rising prospects like Tarver, Pavlik, and Pascal well into his 40s, which many considered to be the twilight of his career.

Age is only a number. You have to also take into account experience, mileage, physicality, etc. Many factors need to be in balance to determine when a boxer is in his/her prime.

[Johnwoo8686]

Anyone can rattle off a laundry list of names just to make their argument seem credible. Can you explain why you think those aforementioned boxers were in their 'prime'?

There is no definite number to determine when a fighter is in their prime. A guy like Tyson had a young man's style, so he peaked when he was 21-24 years old. On the other hand, skillful boxers like Holyfield, Holmes, and Lewis were still winning big fights well into their 30s.

Bernard Hopkins was taking out rising prospects like Tarver, Pavlik, and Pascal well into his 40s, which many considered to be the twilight of his career.

Age is only a number. You have to also take into account experience, mileage, physicality, etc. Many factors need to be in balance to determine when a boxer is in his/her prime.

Look at the bold. That completely contradicts your statement that Canelo was "before" his prime when he fought Floyd. You just admitted there is no definite measure to tell if he was prime or not.

[IR0NFIST]

Look at the bold. That completely contradicts your statement that Canelo was "before" his prime when he fought Floyd. You just admitted there is no definite measure to tell if he was prime or not.

You're still online? I'm assuming you couldn't get any sleep after the schooling I put on you last night.

Unlike you, I wasn't using Canelo's age as a measure to determine whether or not he was in his prime, so your argument is invalid.

[Johnwoo8686]

You're still online? I'm assuming you couldn't get any sleep after the schooling I put on you last night.

Unlike you, I wasn't using Canelo's age as a measure to determine whether or not he was in his prime, so your argument is invalid.

I just logged on not long ago. SO tell me then. How exactly is Canelo not prime then?