I mean all you have to do is look at the fact that with the exception of Cotto (he wasn't drained when he fought Floyd) Manny's biggest wins above 130 all fought and lost to Floyd first and were usually coming off brutal losses when Manny decided to fight them... then just look at where the guys that floyd fought at welter were ranked at the time floyd fought them and compare that to Manny's resume at welter ... it should be pretty obvious. Floyd has for the majority of his time at welter beaten the highest ranked opponent available ... Manny has not.
do CW's, fighting unranked guys, guys after beatings affect Pac legacy
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Because he is a media darling I always thought once he fought past 130, he got a pass for doing things other fighters get bssjed for and his comp at ww is wholly averageWhy does every thread that has to do with Pacquiao's resume or just Pacquiao period have to turn into a "but Mayweather did this thread"? I mean it literally took 2 comments for this thread to get hijacked. Why can't his resume be looked at in detail without Floyd's name coming up. You guys have attached his name to Floyd so much that now that Floyd has beaten him the loss looks that much worse. Give it a rest for once... and yes his resume (Pac) in welter and jr welter for the passed 7 years has been pretty bad... probably not even a top 100 resume in welter if you are looking at it the right way.
The media made him a once in a generation talent all the while he is in the mist of the pack....he is one of the best of his era and all time but historically i wanted to ask peoples opinion on him....PAC never was a top ten p4p ever type they wanted him to beComment
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Right like Floyd fans know it all. hahahPacquiao's whole refusal to take drug tests and catch weights, will definitely affect his legacy with hardcore fans and historians. Those that don't look into the details, will be clueless and overrate him. Then there are those right now that refuse to look at the whole situation objectively, because they are extremely biased.Comment
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Let me try to understand the logic of Floyd fans. Manny and Floyd have fought a lot of the same opponents and the ones that are different are at about the same level. Floyd potshots his way to a win over an injured Manny and that makes Floyd the TBE. I guess by your logic Manny must be in the top 10 of all time then since neither guy really dominated one another in the fightBecause he is a media darling I always thought once he fought past 130, he got a pass for doing things other fighters get bssjed for and his comp at ww is wholly average
The media made him a once in a generation talent all the while he is in the mist of the pack....he is one of the best of his era and all time but historically i wanted to ask peoples opinion on him....PAC never was a top ten p4p ever type they wanted him to beComment
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No his leagacy is set in stone imo. I, as a general rule, hate catch weights, but no one held a gun to the fighters head and made them do it. If you can't make the weight and be healthy than that is the opponents fault, not Mannys. Also the only fight I can think of where the weight made the fighter look ****ty was Morales. Jesus Christ he looked terrible. Again that is on Morales though.
If a fighter takes a fight at a catch weight and loses. Take your loss like a man and move on. I feel no sorrow for a guy that tries to squeeze into a division they got no business in when they get their ass whooped.Comment
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Making light welter weights and featherweights move up to 154 to challenge for the welterweight title is worse IMO.Comment
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Couldnt have said it better myself
youre a fanboy yourself. only difference is you choose to keep your head in someones as.s as opposed to just watchig the sport and appreciating what each boxer brings to the table kidComment
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