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  • StefanTosic
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    #181
    Originally posted by Barcham
    No fight was ever offered. Lara's name was presented to Sanchez as a POSSIBLE opponent and Sanchez said no, it would not be an interesting fight. There were no prior discussions between Loeffler and Lara's people and HBO was never involved, nor was there any insinuation that Haymon had given Lara permission to fight away from PBC. In other words... there was no fight to offer.

    If you are going to present an argument, at least present it fairly and honestly and include all the facts that are known.
    Thank you. By the way I read the article on boxingscene. This is why I asked for precise answers, this offer hasn't got further than Lara calling out Golovkin in public, Haymon never sent an offer, all it was is Loeffler asking Abel what he thinks about that fight. That's why I asked those questions - I was very suprised that Haymon actually sent an offer because all I heard before was just Lara calling him out without sending any actual offer and it stayed that way.

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    • brettWall
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      #182
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Uhmm....where did we find out that?

      We found out that GGG's manager took Lara's name to GGG's trainer and he said no. That is what we found out. No need to distort the truth.
      You have to prove that Decubas consulted with Haymon about GGG. You have to prove Decubas contacted Loeffler about the fight. Otherwise, you're just arguing about nothing.

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      • icha
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        #183
        Originally posted by Barcham
        And Sanchez was correct in not being interested in a Lara fight. There is not a real boxing fan alive who would be interested in that fight. What is the point? GGG would have absolutely nothing to gain from it. When he wins, his detractors would claim he beat up on a guy from a lower weight class. If he looked bad even in a win due to Lara running a track meet in the ring, he would lose even if he won. Lara had no title to offer, no money or fans to boost the fight, not a damn thing at all.

        Why waste time trying to get Haymon and HBO to work together on a pointless fight? If you were going to try to work with Haymon, might as well work on getting a fight against his top MW fighter, Quillin, instead of a lame ass runner like Lara. GGG is known for exciting fights. No one wants to see him having to chase Lara around the ring. People who like that kind of boring crap can watch Mayweather fight.
        so in other words they have a valid reason to avoid lara, but ward who is just as boring has been mentioned by gggs team a lot during the last 12 months, even ward had to ask them to stop calling his name... isnt that a little contradictory from gggs team?...

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        • HanzGruber
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          #184
          20 pages for this? lol im guessing its filled with gullible gennady groupies still trying to pretend hes invincible and nobody wants to fight him

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          • icha
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            #185
            Originally posted by StefanTosic
            Thank you. By the way I read the article on boxingscene. This is why I asked for precise answers, this offer hasn't got further than Lara calling out Golovkin in public, Haymon never sent an offer, all it was is Loeffler asking Abel what he thinks about that fight. That's why I asked those questions - I was very suprised that Haymon actually sent an offer because all I heard before was just Lara calling him out without sending any actual offer and it stayed that way.
            nobody said anything about haymon, he doesnt send offers or negotiates, he only aproves, it was gggs own promoter offering the fight to gggs team and they said no, this fight wont make it to network or promoters cuz one side doesnt want it...

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            • Dirk Diggler UK
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              #186
              Originally posted by BreWall
              You have to prove that Decubas consulted with Haymon about GGG. You have to prove Decubas contacted Loeffler about the fight. Otherwise, you're just arguing about nothing.
              What? Why do I have to prove anything? You just made the claim so you have to prove it.

              You know what I can prove? That GGG's trainer said "NO" to the fight.

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                #187
                Originally posted by StefanTosic
                Thank you. By the way I read the article on boxingscene. This is why I asked for precise answers, this offer hasn't got further than Lara calling out Golovkin in public, Haymon never sent an offer, all it was is Loeffler asking Abel what he thinks about that fight. That's why I asked those questions - I was very suprised that Haymon actually sent an offer because all I heard before was just Lara calling him out without sending any actual offer and it stayed that way.
                Why would Haymon send GGG an offer? The fight would be on HBO. Golovkin is the champion. It's up to his side to send an offer. Just like Kovalev's side sent Beterbiev an offer despite him being managed by Haymon.

                GGG's side never sent an offer because Sanchez rejected the fight before it got to that stage.

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                • StefanTosic
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by Barcham
                  If you were going to try to work with Haymon, might as well work on getting a fight against his top MW fighter, Quillin
                  This here exactly is another proof how Haymon's groupies are ignoring the truth! I mean Haymon already has a few fighters that should fought Golovkin a long ago but they are ducking him for years with no shame (Quillin and Jacobs), yet they are still trying to find any way to make Golovkin look bad. There are already a few MW from his stable that GGG should have fought a long ago, but now he's the one ducking PBC fighters, oh yeah?????? Damn Quillin and Jacobs should fought between them but they haven't. Lara could fight A LOT better opponent than a D clas Rodriguez... But GGG is ducking him?
                  The thing is I'm not even completely sold on GGG!!! (even tough I like him) And the reason is because he hasn't fought a top opponent yet (and the reason for it isn't because he's ducking them but because they are ducking him)

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                  • Eastcoast
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                    #189
                    How come we don't ever see any talk for Lara vs Quillin or Jacobs?

                    Lara acts like he's been sitting on a block of ice for over a year waiting for Golovkin, why doesn't he get proactive about making this fight happen? Does he want it or not? Right now, I'd pick Derevyanchenkoto to beat him.

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                    • brettWall
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      What? Why do I have to prove anything? You just made the claim so you have to prove it.

                      You know what I can prove? That GGG's trainer said "NO" to the fight.
                      But you make it sound as if it's not a mutual rejection on both sides. I'll go along with your line of BS if you prove that Decubas did indeed do something to make the fight happen. Prove that he contacted Loeffler and Haymon. That's all you have to do.

                      Decubas is a useless member in Lara's team. He just tweets. Yet you take him seriously.

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