Which is more flawed - GGG's defence or Floyd's offence?

[El-blanco]

That's not really true. The way he fought Baldomir and Oscar were unique to those fights. His fights against Judah abd Hatton were very offensive in fact. U know why? Because against the other two he was very outsized so he fought smart. Boxing fans shouldn't have to be told these things. But whatever I guess

Thanks for the lesson professor.

[El-blanco]

He fought Maidana last year. WTF are you talking about? How about against Judah, Hatton, Mosley, etc.

Transitioning from defense to offense is offense. Timing your opponent is offense. Creating counter punching opportunities is offense. Setting traps and forcing your opponent to walk into hooks is offense. Wearing him down to the body is offense. Neutralizing a jab with a counter right hand is offense (GGG dropped Monroe last night). Punching accuracy is good offense. Punching placement is good offense. Variations of using your lead hand is good offense.

With all due respect your arguments are retarted and short sighted. A flaw is something you can capitalize on. How do you capitalize on Floyd's offensive flaws? By throwing a lot of punches? That's been tried before.

Floyd's biggest flaw is that he doesn't try to block a jab because it sets up his right hand counter. That's why a jab is a must have when fighting him. That's an example of a flaw.

Ya, real respectful. And I guess my point flew over your head. He fought maidana last year and oscar and baldomir years ago, yet he still fights the same way which shuts down your "old man" style argument. This is pointless youre a ****rider who masks it well until someone says something about your idol, then you throw a tantrum.

[-PBP-]

Ya, real respectful. And I guess my point flew over your head. He fought maidana last year and oscar and baldomir years ago, yet he still fights the same way which shuts down your "old man" style argument. This is pointless youre a ****rider who masks it well until someone says something about your idol, then you throw a tantrum.

Yea yea ****ride this fl0mo that. Typical response from a troll with no comebacks.

[SkillspayBills]

Yea yea ****ride this fl0mo that. Typical response from a troll with no comebacks.

You don't get tired of verbally spanking these guys?

[Doctor_Tenma]

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Thanks for the lesson professor.

In truth offensively, that was inaccurate though. Mayweather tried to get Baldomir out for much of that fight, he actually sat on his punches, fully committed to them and when he saw he couldn't hurt Baldomir, as well as hurt his right hand, he started to potshot.



Offensively what didn't he do against DLH considering the circumstances as well? Mayweather was in there against the bigger, physically stronger man, a fighter who unlike Canelo had a jab he'd step in with. Don't see the similarities.

[b00g13man]

i'd say knocking your opponents out is more efficient than outpointing them..

You're acting like ggg has ten losses. What's more efficient, eliminating a risk or giving it an opportunity for a whole fight?

What part of my post suggests I agreed with him?

All I did was state that the poster El-blanco quoted used the word "efficient" not "better". However he defines the "efficiency" of an offense is up to him, and you can take that up with him.

[El-blanco]

Yea yea ****ride this fl0mo that. Typical response from a troll with no comebacks.

I did respond, he's fought similarly close to a decade.

You don't get tired of verbally spanking these guys?

Shouldn't you be on a bus somewhere on your way to **** some fat broad off the net?

[b00g13man]

He fought Maidana last year. WTF are you talking about? How about against Judah, Hatton, Mosley, etc.

Transitioning from defense to offense is offense. Timing your opponent is offense. Creating counter punching opportunities is offense. Setting traps and forcing your opponent to walk into hooks is offense. Wearing him down to the body is offense. Neutralizing a jab with a counter right hand is offense (GGG dropped Monroe last night). Punching accuracy is good offense. Punching placement is good offense. Variations of using your lead hand is good offense.

With all due respect your arguments are retarted and short sighted. A flaw is something you can capitalize on. How do you capitalize on Floyd's offensive flaws? By throwing a lot of punches? That's been tried before.

Floyd's biggest flaw is that he doesn't try to block a jab because it sets up his right hand counter. That's why a jab is a must have when fighting him. That's an example of a flaw.

Well said.

[Marvellous1]

Why exactly are we comparing two different aspects of two different fighters' games, of whom:

One is a hard punching middleweight in his only division, fighting decent to good opposition.

The other is a near twenty year veteran in his fourth division who has brittle hands fighting good to great opposition.

Talk about apples and oranges. When we say "flawed" is he OP referring to what doesn't work against opponents or what he finds entertaining?

If you have punching power and a good chin, you take liberties with defence. If you know you can reduce your opponent's output and make them miss, you don't have to go in all guns blazing.

I like GGG and his style of fighting, but I'm not naïve enough to ignore that it might change if he were to start regularly facing bigger guys he can't knock out and who could hurt him bad if he were too careless. If it happened, I'd totally understand because I ain't the one in there getting punched in the face.

[MrRolltide91]

Why exactly are we comparing two different aspects of two different fighters' games, of whom:

One is a hard punching middleweight in his only division, fighting decent to good opposition.

The other is a near twenty year veteran in his fourth division who has brittle hands fighting good to great opposition.

Talk about apples and oranges. When we say "flawed" is he OP referring to what doesn't work against opponents or what he finds entertaining?

If you have punching power and a good chin, you take liberties with defence. If you know you can reduce your opponent's output and make them miss, you don't have to go in all guns blazing.

I like GGG and his style of fighting, but I'm not naïve enough to ignore that it might change if he were to start regularly facing bigger guys he can't knock out and who could hurt him bad if he were too careless. If it happened, I'd totally understand because I ain't the one in there getting punched in the face.

good point