Comments Thread For: Laila Ali on Mayweather: TBE Takes More Than an '0'

[Kagami Taiga]

I have no problem with Floyd thinking he's the best ever. Just like I have no issue with most thinking he isnt. I don't think he is. But he is the best fighter I've ever had the pleasure of witnessing.

[MurkaMan]

No way you could ever argue top 3. His Resume is very lackluster. Notably lacking in fighters in their prime.

No it isnt lol. He was past his prime as well and SRL fought Hagler when he was old. He ducked him until he aged. Was SRL fighting as sharp as Floyd when he was 38? Did he had those skills, and if he were to fight Floyd would he look different from the other 48 who tried and failed? It dont matter if you got speed, footowork, size, or if your awkward, anyone who faces Floyd is going to look flatfooted and slow.

I think SRL has a FLASHY resume. better than Floyds tbh. But I think Floyd has a GREAT resume and SRL found a way to win. Floyd finds a way to humiliate and makes it look easy as hell. I think Floyd's skillset outweighs SRL's flashy resume. I dont get involved with the titles, weight divisions because I cant talk about things I dont know and this era is different than that one. But skillwise, Floyd makes those guys look like clumsey bums. For their were NO Floyds in the history of boxing, before this era. This is the first time we had a fighter this perfect ever. The stage is set for Tcraw but he has a while to go.

And I dont know if he can evolve the way Floyd did. Floyd had to evolve when he went up in weight to fight bigger men. Tcraw will have some problems once he fights guys who can hurt him and take his punches.

[MurkaMan]

Ali = Mozart
Floyd = Simon Cowell

That sounds backwards LIAR lol. Ali's boxing is more artful than Floyd;s? If he is Mozart compared to Floyd, then we have to come up with something knew to describe the perfection of Floyd.

Dude is 38 and still looking sharp. I think his best fight was JMM and Gatti

[Kagami Taiga]

Floyd isn't a top 10 all time fighter. U won't find a bigger fan than me but there's literally no case for it. He's somewhere in the top 30 or so I'd say. Definitely a great fighter, no1 can take that from him at this point.

[MrTambourineMan]

You could have been clever and said Saleiri

That would have been too kind to Floyd.

[Kagami Taiga]

You could have been clever and said Saleiri

Foreman is more Saleri tbh.

[MurkaMan]

Floyd isn't a top 10 all time fighter. U won't find a bigger fan than me but there's literally no case for it. He's somewhere in the top 30 or so I'd say. Definitely a great fighter, no1 can take that from him at this point.

Your a baldfaced liar lol. When put into perspective their is a case that he is top 3 easy. People want to keep lying about how good the oldschool fighters werw when Floyd would probably make them look like flatfooted clumsey silly fighters. Floyd does that tveryone no matter how good they are. You are a flatfooted goofball when you get in the ring with Floyd.

Read my other comments. Dont get up here and lie "Their is literally NO case" GTFO with that mess lol

[MurkaMan]

Floyd isn't a top 10 all time fighter. U won't find a bigger fan than me but there's literally no case for it. He's somewhere in the top 30 or so I'd say. Definitely a great fighter, no1 can take that from him at this point.

Top 30 lol. I'd like to find 10 fighters in history who can do something different than the 48 who tried and failed, let alone 30 fighters lol

[Ahmed_Ismail]

No way you could ever argue top 3. His Resume is very lackluster. Notably lacking in fighters in their prime.

Let's go over the most impressive wins by Ali and see who he really beat that was in his prime.

Sonny Liston was 33 years old and his biggest win was against Floyd Patterson who was a light heavyweight.

Floyd Patterson was 31 and he was clearly past prime at this point in time coming of 2 KO losses to Sonny Liston.

George Chuvalo was 31-11 going into the fight

Henry Cooper was 28-10 going into the fight

Jerry Quarry was 37-4-4 going into the fight with recent KO losses to Joe Frazier and George Chuvalo.

Joe Frazier his most credible opponent, he was the reigning heavyweight champion and he was undefeated in his prime, Ali gets full credit for fighting him but he lost the fight.

Jimmy Ellis was a good opponent and a former world champ, but he had 6 losses going into the fight including a recent KO loss to Joe Frazier, Ellis was good but unfortunately he lost to all the good fighters he faced, he was clearly past prime at that point.

Floyd Patterson again, joke fight.

Ken Norton was great, great opponent, young and in his prime, no doubt the best he could've fought but he lost.

Ken Norton II same like the first fight but Ali got the decision this time in a razor close fight, good for Ali

Joe Frazier II Frazier was past prime and was coming off a devastating KO loss to George Foreman, still Ali struggled with him.

George Foreman Biggest win of his career and the biggest upset in the history of the sport, no question a terrific win for Ali.

Ron Lyle, good opponent for Ali, Lyle was young and in his prime but he was coming off a loss to Jimmy Young and he didn't have any names on his record prior to the fight with Ali, and after the fight he didn't accomplish much either.

Jimmy Young was 17-4-2 going into the fight, he was a good fighter but he didn't beat anybody of note before the fight with Ali and he gave Ali a good fight for 15 rounds.

Joe Frazier 3, Frazier was clearly past it in this one and he still gave Ali hell for 14 rounds, Ali was going to quit but Frazier did it first, great fight but Frazier was clearly past prime.

Leon Spinks had 7 pro fights, Ali was unfortunately out of prime too and he lost

Leon Spinks 2 again Spinks didn't have much experience and the fight set record in the number of clinches.

Larry Holmes great opponent and an ATG, Ali gets full credit for fighting him even though he lost.

So to me the prime tough opponents he faced were Frazier 1 (loss), Ken Norton (loss), George Foreman, and Larry Holmes (loss and it shouldn't have happened in the first place).

Floyd has some good names on his resume too, Corrales was in his prime and was undefeated, beat a lot of good names before and after the fight with Floyd, Castillo was good and young and went on to beat good names after the fight with Floyd, Ricky Hatton was undefeated and he was still in his prime, JMM was a comeback fight after a 2 year layoff and he absolutely dominated, Mosley was old but was coming off the biggest KO win of his career against Margarito, the guy who people said Floyd ducked, Canelo was in his prime and he was the undefeated bigger guy who was supposed to beat Floyd, Maidana was at his peak coming off the biggest win of his career against Adrien Broner and of course beating Manny Pacquiao EASILY was the icing on the cake.

[elishua F]

when it comes to floyd being undefeated not a big deal who cares right...but when these same people drool over marciano, whats the first thing they bring up? ..exactly, hypocrisy. ..

people that complain about floyd clinching never seen full length Ali fights, that guy was the clinch god..he was wladimir of the 70s..again, more hypocrisy

in his mid 30s Ali was already washed up..floyd is the only boxer ever to be way past his prime and still considered #1 P4P ..people seem to forget that floyd's best days are long gone and hes still on the throne

Ali purposely took punishment on the ropes for many years..thats nothing to praise, if Ali was fighting right now he would get trashed same way as wladimir

what about his signature move of holding a guys neck down nonstop, would this be seen as great if he was fighting now

fact is people only started loving Ali when Parkinson struck hin.