Duran's place amongst the 4... Over ranked?

[Easy Work.]

Not really schooled. More like mocked and frustrated. It was a close fight when Duran quit, Leonard was up by 2 or 3 points probably. Why he quit, well, not even Duran seems to be able to tell anyone.

He probaly quit becuase he was getting embarassed and schooled

[TMTForever]

it's about race period. duran didn't beat anyone of note at 135. got lucky vs leonard in the first fight and went on to lose to every great fighter of his era.

duran was 16-6 in title fights hardly better than hagler, leonard, or hearns who domianted their respective weight classes in emphatic fashion.

duran like pacquiao is not black so he rates higher in non-blacks eyes. but he definitely did not accomplish more career wise compared to the other 4 greats of his era.

floyd like leonard are the best of their era and beat everyone put in front of them

[Jcsuper]

1 - Leonard
2 - Hagler
3 - Duran
4 - Hearns

You can say anything you want but I wont change my opinion.

[BennyST]

Why is it that he seems to get so much love and is even ranked higher by most when compared to the rest of the 4 horesmen? He did tremendous things at the lower weight classes and was smaller than all three of the other guy's but he lost to every single one of them... with the exception of the one win over Leonard in the first fight (you could argue Leonard won that one too)... Hearn's nearly decapitated him, Hagler beat him, No Mas' and he lost to "Radar" Benitez...

Why is he ranked so high ... not in the lower classes but the work he did in those superfights...
He was exciting, ruthless, a wild man both in and out of the ring but he lost damn near every single one of the fights that mattered most...

I'm admitting my ignorance on the subject as I'm pretty weak with my boxing history pre 1990. So take it easy on me... but It's always been something that bothered me and I've never really gotten a good answer.
When I speak to old timer's guys my father or uncles age it's alway Leonard and then Duran that come up and maybe in close 3rd it's Hagler.

It's very simple, but as you say, you're ignorant on the matter so why bring it up as if you know?

The bulk of his career was fought long before the others and at a much lower worth class. He was significantly older, especially in terms of ring age than the others, and he was also much, much smaller.

The others were in their prime at their best weights, while Duran was past his best and well past his best weight. It's literally that simple.

For instance; He'd been fighting as a pro for nearly ten years, and been a champion for about 6 or 7 years before Hearns even started his career as a pro.

So to recap, he was older, smaller, past his best, and had been fighting at the top level as champion nearly a decade before the others even started their pro careers. He then moved up all those divisions after starting out at superbantam weight to compete on equal footing with guys considered the greatest in their divisions, apart from Hearns.

While at his best though, he beat the best of the lot. The guy that beat all the others, Duran was the only one who could beat, when he was at his best still.

There's nothing complex about it.

[BennyST]

it's about race period. duran didn't beat anyone of note at 135. got lucky vs leonard in the first fight and went on to lose to every great fighter of his era.

duran was 16-6 in title fights hardly better than hagler, leonard, or hearns who domianted their respective weight classes in emphatic fashion.

duran like pacquiao is not black so he rates higher in non-blacks eyes. but he definitely did not accomplish more career wise compared to the other 4 greats of his era.

floyd like leonard are the best of their era and beat everyone put in front of them

Well, Duran did dominate his weight class emphatically. As emphatically as Hagler, but unlike Hagler, he then moved up and kept winning against the greatest of the others. What would we think of Hagler if after dominating 160 as he did, he then moved up and beat Spinks, then moved up again and kept winning?

Your sad little weak mind makes it about race, period. Pathetic.

[Wizardsh]

it's about race period. duran didn't beat anyone of note at 135. got lucky vs leonard in the first fight and went on to lose to every great fighter of his era.

duran was 16-6 in title fights hardly better than hagler, leonard, or hearns who domianted their respective weight classes in emphatic fashion.

duran like pacquiao is not black so he rates higher in non-blacks eyes. but he definitely did not accomplish more career wise compared to the other 4 greats of his era.

floyd like leonard are the best of their era and beat everyone put in front of them

****** f*u*c*k I will say it for you "it's because I am black" Larry you are fool and use your real account you dam troll

[TMTForever]

Well, Duran did dominate his weight class emphatically. As emphatically as Hagler, but unlike Hagler, he then moved up and kept winning against the greatest of the others. What would we think of Hagler if after dominating 160 as he did, he then moved up and beat Spinks, then moved up again and kept winning?

so after fighting no one at 135 of any note he moves up to 147 and goes 1-5 against the best fighters of his era. no way he rates above hagler who dominated a far tougher division in 160 then duran at 135. duran did nothing in moving up because if he was half as goods as you say he would have been able to actually win his biggest fights instead of going 1-5.

[Wizardsh]

so after fighting no one at 135 of any note he moves up to 147 and goes 1-5 against the best fighters of his era. no way he rates above hagler who dominated a far tougher division in 160 then duran at 135. duran did nothing in moving up because if he was half as goods as you say he would have been able to actually win his biggest fights instead of going 1-5.

Just shut your mouth Larry it's full of $h!t

[TMTForever]

ok and for the record

1. hagler 2-1 unified toughest division in boxing
2. Leonard 3-1 beat the best fighters of his era in dominating fashion
3. Hearns 2-2 beat duran like a step child went to to toe vs hagler
4. benitez 1-2 beat duran in his prime lost to leonard and hearns
5. duran - 1-2 no mas vs leonard and koed vs hearns nuff said! lmao

[b00g13man]

???? Floyd is 38 and fighting 4 divisions over where he began...i dont get your point

Don't let facts get in the way of a good "hate" session.

Floyd never fought anyone on the same level as the big three. Duran, Leonard, Hagler in their respective primes are all capable of beating him

What does any of that have to do with his post? Who are these fighters on that same level that he could've fought?