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  • IR0NFIST
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    #201
    Originally posted by Easy Work.
    The point is that he walked through weight classes gaining power and speed, usually when a fighter moves up in weight he loses power. Not the case with manny.

    After the "alleged" steroid usage stopped, he didnt look as powerful and fast .
    Right.

    The decrease in punching power was noticeable when he broke Margarito's orbital bone, and even more so when he sent Mosley crashing down to the canvas. Both fights coincidentally taking place after he was rightfully accused of steroids, it's obvious that moving up in weight and fighting bigger guys had absolutely no effect on his performance. /sarcasm

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    • Weebler I
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      #202
      Originally posted by radioraheem
      I'll post this for you too...
      I don't see how any of that is relevant. You know he asked for pain-killing shoulder injections pre-fight, why would he ask for them if his shoulder wasn't causing him pain? Surgery only confirms it. It's open and shut man, he was injured and it was causing him pain.

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      • IR0NFIST
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        #203
        Originally posted by radioraheem
        "We had no medical information, no MRIs, no documents," said Travis Tygart, who heads USADA. "It was not an anti-doping issue. The real question is why his camp checked 'no' on the disclosure.



        Another article in case that's not enough -- http://www.boxingscene.com/photo-pac...re-nsac--90641
        Checking the incorrect box on the form was nothing more than human error on Michael Koncz's part, a result of growing accustomed to the routine of filling out pre-fight medical forms. He did, however, disclose the anti-inflammatory medications; which was approved by USADA.

        If Pacquiao wasn't injured (which you seem to be heavily implying) why would he be taking those aforementioned meds?

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        • brickcityboxing
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          #204
          Originally posted by Weebler I
          I don't see how any of that is relevant. You know he asked for pain-killing shoulder injections pre-fight, why would he ask for them if his shoulder wasn't causing him pain? Surgery only confirms it. It's open and shut man, he was injured and it was causing him pain.
          well he has two different story's one is that he was injured during the fight in which case he must be a psychic to have known he would get (re?) injured in the 4th or 5th.. and the second scenario/story is that he was hurt coming into it but then decided to check off that he wasn't injured and threw a hissy fit when he couldn't get drugs for his non injury. either way he doesn't walk away seeming too smart.

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          • Easy Work.
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            #205
            Originally posted by IR0NFIST
            Right.

            The decrease in punching power was noticeable when he broke Margarito's orbital bone, and even more so when he sent Mosley crashing down to the canvas. Both fights coincidentally taking place after he was rightfully accused of steroids, it's obvious that moving up in weight and fighting bigger guys had absolutely no effect on his performance. /sarcasm
            Lol he was most likely on roids for the mosley and margarito fights, thats the whole point. If he did roids he probably stopped using them around the clottey fight

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            • IR0NFIST
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              #206
              Originally posted by brickcityboxing
              well he has two different story's one is that he was injured during the fight in which case he must be a psychic to have known he would get (re?) injured in the 4th or 5th.. and the second scenario/story is that he was hurt coming into it but then decided to check off that he wasn't injured and threw a hissy fit when he couldn't get drugs for his non injury. either way he doesn't walk away seeming too smart.
              You've taken one too many punches to the head.

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              • brickcityboxing
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                #207
                Originally posted by IR0NFIST
                Checking the incorrect box on the form was nothing more than human error on Michael Koncz's part, a result of growing accustomed to the routine of filling out pre-fight medical forms. He did, however, disclose the anti-inflammatory medications; which was approved by USADA.

                If Pacquiao wasn't injured (which you seem to be heavily implying) why would he be taking those aforementioned meds?
                Give me a break!!! Human error??? That's what you're going with? The biggest fight in your life you get to the section pertaining to your fighters injuries (or lack thereof) and it slips your mind?... I'm sure it slipped his mind to file Manny's taxes properly too or to buy a filing cabinet instead of keeping the guys paperwork in shoeboxes,

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by IR0NFIST
                  Checking the incorrect box on the form was nothing more than human error on Michael Koncz's part, a result of growing accustomed to the routine of filling out pre-fight medical forms. He did, however, disclose the anti-inflammatory medications; which was approved by USADA.

                  If Pacquiao wasn't injured (which you seem to be heavily implying) why would he be taking those aforementioned meds?
                  I believe Raheem thinks he was requesting them for some other injury, not his shoulder (see below)

                  He's entitled to his opinion but I think it's fairly clear they were for his shoulder.

                  Originally posted by radioraheem
                  Again, there are numerous fighters that take injections but it's not because there is a serious injury. There may be some pain, but having some pain or muscle soreness is different from a MAJOR injury.
                  You at least acknowledge then that he may have had some pain, and without pain-killing injections he would have had to fight through it.
                  Last edited by Weebler I; 05-15-2015, 05:03 PM.

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                  • brickcityboxing
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by IR0NFIST
                    You've taken one too many punches to the head.
                    Sure don't try and refute my claims with an facts or logic... just try and hurl some weak borderline offensive remark and think you've made a point in doing so.

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                    • IR0NFIST
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by Easy Work.
                      Lol he was most likely on roids for the mosley and margarito fights, thats the whole point. If he did roids he probably stopped using them around the clottey fight
                      The Clottey fight was before Margarito and Mosley.

                      And this is you right now.

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