Comments Thread For: Froch's Coach Sees Ward, GGG - Under Right Terms

[Mooshashi]

The longer Froch stays out of the ring, the worse beating he's going to take if he fights a bigger, stronger fighter. Like Marvin Hagler once said, "it's hard to do 5AM roadwork when you're sleeping in silk pajamas". If Froch really made 9 million pounds against Groves (which as fought before 80,000 in Wembley as Froch is fond of reminding us) then his only motivation now is money, not belts. Why risk a beat down by GGG, or another schooling by Ward? A Dirrell rematch sounds good...he isn't going to get hurt in that one.

I know he keeps mentioning GGG but the risk vs reward is too high. Take a safe fight, cash the check and go home. It's been a great career, don't let it end on the image of a KO'd Hatton-like figure laying on the canvas.

[springfiels]

Why would he? Why? Use some logical reasoning instead of the generic "he wants no parts"- Froch is going to train 12 weeks to chase Dirrell around a ring for pittance and a belt he's already won and vacated??

Well, as you asked 'why' twice Dirk how can I not answer... My main point there was more that there are no fights left for Froch, as he wouldn't wanna fight Ward or Dirrell again - for a mix of the reasons both of us have given. I wouldn't expect him to wanna rematch Dirrell, one because he would be savagely outboxed again but to be fair he wouldn't make much or gain anything from it either, so yeah why would he? Why?! Why?!?! Ward same story too unless they got him to the UK in a stadium & on PPV.

Like I said, time to retire then really - you agree?

(sorry, I'm not as witty as you with the smileys Dirk)

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Well, as you asked 'why' twice Dirk how can I not answer... My main point there was more that there are no fights left for Froch, as he wouldn't wanna fight Ward or Dirrell again - for a mix of the reasons both of us have given. I wouldn't expect him to wanna rematch Dirrell, one because he would be savagely outboxed again but to be fair he wouldn't make much or gain anything from it either, so yeah why would he? Why?! Why?!?! Ward same story too unless they got him to the UK in a stadium & on PPV.

Like I said, time to retire then really - you agree?

(sorry, I'm not as witty as you with the smileys Dirk)

"Savagely outboxed" - funny one. He may have been outpointed but you've blown that well out of proportion. And I don't think he honestly cares if he gets outboxed by either Ward or Dirrell - you can see it in his interviews, his not bothered at all.

If they paid him an obscene amount of money, he'll happily get "savagely outboxed" by either of them. There are plenty of fights left for him if the price is right.

[Barcham]

If he fights GGG, he will get savagely beaten.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Did he clear £9m or was that before Hern and Sky took their slice ?

GGG is knocking out 180 pound guys come fight night, I can accept if Froch can get the same money versus the likes of DeGale and Groves then he has every right to rebuff these low balls.

It really is simple Ward and GGG represnt too much risk for the same reward as fighting guys a level below. It's a no brainier, this is on HBO to make it worth his while. GGG must be happy to continue facing guys likes Munroe and Rubio, if he genuinely wanted the big fights surely he would be calling for them such as Ward and Froch. Their was mention of a Kessler fight recently but obviously they didn't offer the Viking Warrior enough to test him either.

HBO need to be realistic in evaluating his opponents worth and also take into account the image they have created of this super destructive KO monster, though he has been fighting levels of opposition a notch or two below elite.

[springfiels]

If they paid him an obscene amount of money, he'll happily get "savagely outboxed" by either of them. There are plenty of fights left for him if the price is right.

Lol! Honestly are you part of his team? These sound like official statements you are putting out on Carl Froch behalf...

Yeah savagely outboxed was a bit OTT to be fair, if that fight was in America he loses every time tho. He won't be offered massive money to fight Dirrell again so lets leave that there, it wont happen for valid reasons.

Could put together a good package to fight Ward if they really wanted it tho, talk about motivation but is Froch literally a mercenary now? Ward is a P4P fighter, got a comprehensive but not outrageous win over him and gives the change to avenge the other loss on his record. They don't really want it tho coz there he would get savagely outboxed and maybe beaten up...

[kafkod]

It was an absolute schooling and the scorecards didn't do it justice. Anyway why would we want to see someone who was clearly beaten by someone fight them again? Froch is an old man next to Ward and if anyone will be declining it's Froch. Nothing says he used steroids so that's poor! and he hasn't fought since Nov2013. He needs a pudding to shake some rust off with

I didn't say anything about steroids, just that Ward doesn't have Victor Conte in his team any longer. The fact that you interpreted the mere mention of Conte's name as an accusation of steroid abuse speaks for itself, really.

Oddly enough the British judge is the only one that scored that fight correctly. As for that home turf advantage, Ward was just as far from home as Froch was. And Ward fans don't have to do anything other than tell someone as delusional as some Froch fans to watch the fight again, only this time do it with their eyes actually open. There is also nothing wrong with Ward fighting another easy touch Englishman.

Froch fough Ward in Atlantic City. Atlantic City is in America and Ward is an American fighter, so Andre had home advantage for that fight.

If they fought again in the UK Ward would be favourite to win, but there would be enough differences between now and then to make it interesting.

Froch has had 3 of the best wins of his career since fighting Ward, and would definitely be more fired up in front of his own crowd than he was away from home in the States.

Ward would be coming back after surgery and a long break from top flight action, and he wouldn't have Conte in his team this time.

[kafkod]

Well, as you asked 'why' twice Dirk how can I not answer... My main point there was more that there are no fights left for Froch, as he wouldn't wanna fight Ward or Dirrell again - for a mix of the reasons both of us have given. I wouldn't expect him to wanna rematch Dirrell, one because he would be savagely outboxed again but to be fair he wouldn't make much or gain anything from it either, so yeah why would he? Why?! Why?!?! Ward same story too unless they got him to the UK in a stadium & on PPV.

Like I said, time to retire then really - you agree?

(sorry, I'm not as witty as you with the smileys Dirk)

"Savagely outboxed"- funny one. He may have been outpointed but you've blown that well out of proportion. And I don't think he honestly cares if he gets outboxed by either Ward or Dirrell - you can see it in his interviews, his not bothered at all.

If they paid him an obscene amount of money, he'll happily get "savagely outboxed" by either of them. There are plenty of fights left for him if the price is right.

That made me chuckle too.

But it was Dirrell who got "savagely outboxed" when he fought Froch, and there is a good chance that the same thing will happen to him again against Groves.

[bluzi]

Why would he? Why? Use some logical reasoning instead of the generic "he wants no parts"- Froch is going to train 12 weeks to chase Dirrell around a ring for pittance and a belt he's already won and vacated??

Dirk money talks , but so does the challange to some ppl in some part of their carrers , if all he cares about is the biggest amount of money he can keep fighthing in the domestic scene and HIS MANAGER and AGENT should stop putting out Ward/GGG names out there , because its obvious degale makes more money then them in a UK venue.

I dont see RN breaking bank just to make Ward/Froch , its not happening , no way HBO shells 15Mil for such a fight as well..

also you berate Dirrel as someone he needs to chase 12 rounds like he wont be intersted in such a fight and then you say why will he want to go to war with GGG , this is a pure contradiction..... unless what you really want to say he wants a sitting duck infront of him , if thats the case he can go on and retire , nothing for us to see with such mindset.

[diarraisagod]

I don't see him fighting Ward or Golovkin, Ward is unrealistic with his demands and Golovkin isn't enough of a draw.

If he fights again Hopkins at 168 could be interesting, or move up and challenge Stevenson for the light heavyweight title if he's interesting in trying to add to his legacy.