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Its the kobe injury, there is no way he could be throwing punches with that type of injury on fight night, its bs
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Bull**** alert! A torn rotator cuff to the extent Manny needed surgery is so painfull there is just no way he fought the entire fight with it. He may have injured his shoulder some before the fight and finally tore it late in the second half of the fight but that's not why he lost! Looks at all the tape leading up to the fight showing Manny sparring and hitting the heavybag. Don't get ****** in by the PR he lost and this injury is being used by the PR specialists hoping to turn it into cash from suckers who think a second fight would be any different.
Believe me if enough suckers bite they're be a rematch, manny will chase floyd again lose on points and make another 50 million doing it. Don't fall for itComment
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He did not rupture it, he suffered a tear, there is a difference.
Tear is a limitation, its painful but you still can have full range of motion. He could have suffered a tear in the muscles or tendons.
Rupture or completely torn, he would have not been able to lift his arm, punch, whatever. This is what the flom0s are insinuating, but too ****** to understand this did not happen.Comment
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Even the term severely doesn't describe the extent of the injury. I can say I severely tore my hamstring based on my feeling and be exaggerating. But truth of the matter is that if something was severely TORN he would not have been able to keep his hand up due to fatigue and pain of just holding it up, let alone fighting with it. Hopkins said it best.. There is no way he had a torn shoulder while he was hitting mitts and heavy bags with that much power just 10 days out. No way he is promising KO with a torn shoulder. Roach even said this is the strongest Manny has ever hit me blah blah... This is the best training camp blah blah... Save it MannyComment
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He injured it about 3 or so weeks before the fight. Used pain killers during that period. USADA and commissions brought up the shoulder injury befor e the fight too including the pain killers.
Got better but as you can see, he never recovered and it got worse during the fight. Manny had surgery. Should be enough that even a blind man can understand.
BTW - Floyd said same thing happened during the Castillo fight hence his poor performance. Floyd lifted his arms, thru punches, bla bla bla ..... but Floyd fans used it as an excuse too without questioning nor asking to see MRIs, doctors notes ......Comment
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So now we go back to... Why would he mark the "No" box on the pre-fight medical questionnaire asking if he had any injuries to his arm, shoulder, etc., and then swing for the fences against Floyd for 12 rounds, and not even mention his shoulder in the post-fight inside the ring interview,
but only bring it up during the post-fight press conference???!!!
"He didn't mention it 'cause he's a warrior like that" doesn't fly with lots of people and is getting more people irritated at the timing of his "excuse".
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They've been trying to have Manny looking like a saint after the inevitable loss, and tip toeing around the issue of the questionnaire they got busted lying about.
It's almost as if Team Pacquiao pre-planned the excuse in case he lost by claiming the... "NSAC knew about the injury before the fight", and timed it to where they would bring it up less than 2 hours before the fight was to take place so that Manny could get some pain injections.
Manny could then be seen punching with abandon and in rapid succession with no let-up for 12 rounds.
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Just pretend it was Floyd and you would get it.
USADA knew for a good 3 weeks. Doctor confirmed and prescribed the pain killers. For what? for his injury ....
In that same form, did Manny hide the pain killers used too? NO! Did the competent commission ask why that was used and if it would be required for the fight? No.
Yes, the check box was not checked correctly but they also told the commissions that there was an injury that required pain killers. When? Before the fight.
So there was plenty of talk about the injury prior to the fight that even Floyd fans would get.
BTW- in the Castillo fight, all it took was Floyd's word and you Floyd fans used that excuse in every Castillo vs Floyd thread ..... "but Floyd was injured, that is why he had a bad day."
.Last edited by ADP02; 05-14-2015, 01:05 AM.Comment
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It's not USADA's role to treat injuries nor to be Team Pac's messenger.Just pretend it was Floyd and you would get it.
USADA knew for a good 3 weeks. Doctor confirmed and prescribed the pain killers. For what? for his injury ....
In that same form, did Manny hide the pain killers used too? NO! Did the competent commission ask why that was used and if it would be required for the fight? No.
Yes, the check box was not checked correctly but they also told the commissions that there was an injury that required pain killers. When? Before the fight.
So there was plenty of talk about the injury prior to the fight that even Floyd fans would get.
BTW- in the Castillo fight, all it took was Floyd's word and you Floyd fans used that excuse in every Castillo vs Floyd thread ..... but Floyd was injured, that is why he had a bad day.
USADA's role was to poke Manny's arms and collect his urine samples.
Team Pac's responsibility was to let the commission know he had a pre-exisiting injury that was acting up and that he may need pain killer shots in his shoulder 3 weeks before the fight.
The NSAC already stated the timing of Pac's "excuse", err uuumm... request for pain killer shots was too late before the fight was to take place.
I know you're a huge Pac fan but c'mon, ADP02. Pac should've kept his mouth shut and taken the loss like the champ he is.
Difference with Floyd is he beat the champ and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt it wasn't a fluke in the rematch.
.Last edited by MindBat; 05-14-2015, 01:16 AM.Comment
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