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  • BOXEO _
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    #91
    Great list! I agree 100%

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    • ElMeroChingon
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      #92
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      It's more about styles of fighting, courage to take risk

      Then why didn't Manny do so? Had he, then you would have been trying to entertain, the main purpose boxing was created in the first place.

      Styles do make fights. What HBO wants is guys that lose great to their stars, not exciting style matchups. Is that what you as a fan of the sport wants?
      Boxing was created to entertain, that's a fact. Any professional sport is mere entertainment.

      Boxing is a sport who's identity is based on a pair of these


      It's ridiculous for you to think it's too much for fans to ask a fighter to use them. They're there for a reason. People tune im to watch boxing, because unlike any other, they have gloves on their hands to throw punches.


      An as far as Pacquiao, he gets the blame as well, hurt shoulder or not, as well as FLoyd. FLoyd nearly automatically gets the blame in every fight, if thats his style, so be it, it's a boring style, Because it's a mega fight, it does not excuse FLoyd from the blame, he contributed to the lack of entertainment, and he's more than capable to do so. AT the end of the day, everyone who made the fight boring gets the blame, boxing is entertainment. Both fighters did not deliver, and you cannot say otherwise, because one fighter is not there fighting by himself.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #93
        Originally posted by ElMeroChingon
        Boxing was created to entertain, that's a fact. Any professional sport is mere entertainment.

        Boxing is a sport who's identity is based on a pair of these


        It's ridiculous for you to think it's too much for fans to ask a fighter to use them. They're there for a reason. People tune im to watch boxing, because unlike any other, they have gloves on their hands to throw punches.


        An as far as Pacquiao, he gets the blame as well, hurt shoulder or not, as well as FLoyd. FLoyd nearly automatically gets the blame in every fight, if thats his style, so be it, it's a boring style, Because it's a mega fight, it does not excuse FLoyd from the blame, he contributed to the lack of entertainment, and he's more than capable to do so. AT the end of the day, everyone who made the fight boring gets the blame, boxing is entertainment. Both fighters did not deliver, and you cannot say otherwise, because one fighter is not there fighting by himself.
        Dude, boxers that move have been around for ages. That HBO is deciding not to show them and criticize them has nothing to do with entertainment. Its because they employ lower skilled fighters who don't have the skill to defeat the very best.

        That's what we asked Manny to do in this fight, throw punches. he didn't. He should have kept throwing and all the entertainment you crave you would have received. As for Floyd being boring-with the exception of Maidana 2, he is never boring when his opponent tries to win despite being down.

        Styles make fights-well Manny decided to abandon his style, that is on him. You are suggesting that because Manny decided to box Floyd is obligated to brawl/slug? Man GTFO!!

        Manny essentially "pulled his starters" because he was down 25 going into the 4th qtr and conceded the game. That is why he is at fault.

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        • PlasterWraps
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          #94
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          So its not good enough to win each hole, you have to risk losing the hole to make birdie just to widen your lead.

          Respectfully, you would never advocate this in any other sport or any walk of life for that matter. Should Bill Gates stop selling computers since he is the richest man in the world? Should Brazil wait to win another world cup until the US wins 5 as well?

          This fight has made some of you post some really sad and pathetic stuff.

          I know you want to see Floyd lose, but at what point do any of you ask Manny/Canelo and the other opponents to get better rather than ask Floyd to get worse just so you can see that happen?
          So if you can 1 putt instead of 2 putt, It's bad to expect him to make a 1 putt?

          I don't care if Floyd loses, it's so hard to try to explain that to you rabid fan boys. I want to see him in a good fight, where he uses the skills he has to entertain people. Take his Corrales fight, at the very least he went after Chico, and while completely one sided, not boring. How is it expecting Mayweather, the best boxer of this generation, to throw some more damn punches "expecting him to get worse."

          Sorry for holding "the best of this generation" to higher standard.

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          Sorry to disappoint you Dazed, but I'm not an alt. Thanks for that negative karma. Stay salty. I hope you enjoy the next Vazquez fight, I won't.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #95
            Originally posted by PlasterWraps
            So if you can 1 putt instead of 2 putt, It's bad to expect him to make a 1 putt?

            I don't care if Floyd loses, it's so hard to try to explain that to you rabid fan boys. I want to see him in a good fight, where he uses the skills he has to entertain people. Take his Corrales fight, at the very least he went after Chico, and while completely one sided, not boring. How is it expecting Mayweather, the best boxer of this generation, to throw some more damn punches "expecting him to get worse."

            Sorry for holding "the best of this generation" to higher standard.

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            Sorry to disappoint you Dazed, but I'm not an alt. Thanks for that negative karma. Stay salty. I hope you enjoy the next Vazquez fight, I won't.
            Dude, you are not making any sense. No one 2 putts on purpose. Putts are never a guarantee. You expect every pro to make their putts, if they miss, it doesn't mean they didn't try to make it.

            Ok, you want to see him in a good fight. You always do when the opponent continues to try and win even though he is down, just like Corrales. Hatton, Cotto, zab, maidana 1-fights where the guy trailing kept fighting and tried to win.

            Manny, Ghost, Canelo, JMM-the guy trailing decides not to switch his style and not try and win even though he is trailing in the fight, hence the boring fight.

            Your holding him to a higher standard isn't the problem-your not asking the opponents to continue to fight to win despite trailing in the fight is.

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            • deanrw
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              #96
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Good post.

              HBO/Herschman have figured out it is more profitable to put on lower caliber fighters in low skilled, violent action fights or give their big names easy wins over opponents who have shown an ability to "look good while losing".

              These fighters fight for much lower purses and will take the same low payment each time they are on.

              Reading the comments, there is a large group of fans that like this so it is not likely to change.
              You are acting like this is all new. This has been the landscape of boxing forever. Go back to the 90's, the most talked about fighters were Gatti, Holyfield, Norris, Tyson, ODLH, Chavez Sr. Go back to the 80's SRL, Pryor, Arguello, Hagler, Duran, Hearns. The trend of the most popular fighters have always been the most violent. There are exceptions like Floyd, as precision craft is appreciated also, but for the most part, everyone wants blood.

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                #97
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                How sad is it to watch the premiere network for boxing devalue boxing skills to such a degree.

                Imagine the NFL network devaluing tackling or NBA TV devaluing shooting and dribbling?

                Guess this was expected once Floyd easily beat Manny.


                you can box without being negative.

                ray leonard, ray robinson, tommy hearns, these were boxer - punchers.

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                • IMDAZED
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by New England
                  you can box without being negative.

                  ray leonard, ray robinson, tommy hearns, these were boxer - punchers.
                  In his prime, Mayweather wasn't negative either. How did all three of those guys look at 38? Exactly.

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                  • Dr Rumack
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by deanrw
                    You are acting like this is all new. This has been the landscape of boxing forever. Go back to the 90's, the most talked about fighters were Gatti, Holyfield, Norris, Tyson, ODLH, Chavez Sr. Go back to the 80's SRL, Pryor, Arguello, Hagler, Duran, Hearns. The trend of the most popular fighters have always been the most violent. There are exceptions like Floyd, as precision craft is appreciated also, but for the most part, everyone wants blood.
                    People want action. They don't want negative fighters who prevent action from taking place.

                    It's not about skill level either. Robinson, Duran, Ali, Armstrong, Dempsey, Leonard, and even Willie Pep were hugely skillful but they were fun to watch too.

                    In any sport, negative or defensive outfits will be scorned. It doesn't mean people don't appreciate how good they are at being negative and defensive.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by deanrw
                      You are acting like this is all new. This has been the landscape of boxing forever. Go back to the 90's, the most talked about fighters were Gatti, Holyfield, Norris, Tyson, ODLH, Chavez Sr. Go back to the 80's SRL, Pryor, Arguello, Hagler, Duran, Hearns. The trend of the most popular fighters have always been the most violent. There are exceptions like Floyd, as precision craft is appreciated also, but for the most part, everyone wants blood.
                      You are kind of missing the point.

                      The fighters you listed, except Gatti (rip) are all highly skilled fighters who won fights not just because of power. They boxed and got KO's through an accumulation of punches. They won fights and got rewarded with bigger purses and bigger fights.

                      They fought highly skilled opponents that forced the best out of them.

                      Nowadays guys with limited skill but who can take a mean punch get more airtime then quality fighters. There main skill/talent is they can absorb brutal beatings from big names over the course of 12 rounds but have no chance to win.

                      There is a big difference between hunting-the thing outdoorsman do and hunting-the thing rich people do on caged in animal reserves.

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