Comments Thread For: Breaking Down Kellerman's Speech on Manny Pacquiao

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

no one's is upset here, only people who keep crying because manny left a * next to 48 over a real injury he had immediate surgery on after the fight.

If it's his excuse, and it was there so be it.

No one mentioned floyd would land a career low on manny. Almost everyone thought pacquiao would throw more than he did, floyd fans included.

i even called it, it had the potential to be one of the most boring fights on the grand stage. Mod even deleted one of my threads with that title.

nice try doe, give yourself a hand.

I'am done with this fight, on to the next.

just move on with your life bro, the fight is over

[Robbie Barrett]

I was thinking the same thing, because we over in the UK didn't see anything else apart from the post-fight interview by Max with #48.

[Spoon23]

Max Kellerman's defends Pac

Renowned boxing commentator Max Kellerman came to Manny Pacquiao’s defense, saying in fighting Floyd Mayweather Jr. with an injured shoulder, the Filipino icon actually “manned up”.

During Sunday's HBO broadcast of the fight between Saul Alvarez and James Kirkland, Kellerman argued that Pacquiao understood the implications of pulling out of the richest fight in boxing history and decided to push through with the bout despite having a bum shoulder.

Pacquiao lost to Mayweather last May 3 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, later on revealing that he had a torn rotator cuff which he sustained in training weeks before the fight. The revelation sparked outburst among the boxing community, with some fans resorting to filing a class action-suit against Pacquiao to claim damages.

Kellerman said Pacquiao shouldn’t be blamed for the incident.

“I think some people have the sense that Manny Pacquiao sold out for the money. And by fighting with a torn rotator cuff, not giving himself the best chance to win, he somehow perpetrated a fraud on the public,” the HBO boxing commentator said.

“I strongly disagree with this,” he added.

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Interestingly, Kellerman drew flak from Filipino fans after what has been perceived as a “rude” post-fight interview he conducted with Pacquiao. He responded by saying he loves Pacquiao and that he had to question the fighting congressman for thinking he won the fight against Mayweather.

Kellerman went on to say that postponing the fight was not an option for Pacquiao, who last week underwent successful surgery on his right shoulder.

“A dilemma is not a tough choice. A dilemma is choice between two bad options. What was Manny Pacquiao supposed to do, when three weeks before the fight, he was diagnosed with a torn rotator cuff that needed surgery? Was he supposed to postpone the fight, taking 12 months off in the interim?” he continued.

“Does coming back after shoulder surgery and a seventeen month ring absence give him a better chance to beat the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world?

The tickets had already been sold, the hotel rooms had been booked, the airfare, etc…the eyes of the boxing world waiting six years to see this fight.”

“What did Manny Pacquiao do? He manned-up,” said Kellerman. “If he postponed, there may never have been a Mayweather/Pacquiao fight. Who knows if Mayweather would have still been active after Manny’s recovery time.”

If there’s any party to blame, Kellerman said it is the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), which supervised the fight and disallowed Pacquiao to take anti-inflammatory injections prior to the bout because of his camp’s failure to disclose the injury.

“So Pacquiao’s camp clears it with USADA [United States Anti-Doping Agency], the drug testing body that Mayweather’s side insisted upon. USADA says, ‘fine…a shot of Toradol is fine’. And then ultimately, at the 11th hour, the Nevada State Athletic Commission says Pacquiao can’t get a shot of Toradol because of what is essentially a clerical error?” Kellerman explained.

A pre-fight medical form submitted by Pacquiao’s camp to the NSAC shows an unchecked boxed next to the question on whether the boxer has any injuries to his upper extremities. Pacquiao’s adviser Michael Koncz owed up to the blunder, saying it was him, not Pacquiao, who filled out the form.

According to Kellerman, the NSAC should have let Pacquiao take the shots for the sake of ensuring a fair fight instead of being strict with its rules.

“Because some box wasn’t checked off and some form wasn’t filled out correctly? If people are mad at anybody for Pacquiao not being at his best on May 2, be mad at the Nevada State Athletic Commission, in my view. Because just when the boxing world needed them to show sound judgment, they decided to stand on principle instead of cooperating with the spirit of the event,” he ended.

[The Big Dunn]

Im sure if you had a torn shoulder you could have done much better. Did you hear Floyd sr tell Floyd to stop fighting scared? let me translate, "Stop fighing Manny like a coward". lol Floyd got a gift. He didnt do nothing special against a one arm Pacquiao. lmfao.
Oh and the injury is and was real. Get over it.

I do not think the injury is real. If you do, fine with me. Floyd will make another $200 mil because idiots like you that do not really understand the nuances of the sport will believe anything Manny/Bob/Freddie/HBO tells you.

It's interesting you point about what was said in the corner by Floyd Sr. It's almost as important as what Freddie didn't say in the corner. Freddie kept telling Manny to throw combinations and never once mentioned or asked Manny about his shoulder.

When was the last time you saw a boxing match where the trainer didn't ask a fighter about an injury, especially one that the trainer and promoter later cite as the reason the fighter didn't perform as usual?

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

i do not think the injury is real. If you, fine with me.

It's interesting you point about what was said in the corner by floyd sr. It's almost as important as what freddie didn't say in the corner. Freddie kept telling manny to throw combinations and never once mentioned or asked manny about his shoulder.

When was the last time you saw a boxing match where the trainer didn't ask a fighter about an injury, especially one that the trainer and promoter later cite as the reason the fighter didn't perform as usual?

these guys wont give up,

[Robbie Barrett]

Kellerman was pressured to do that by HBO. They're in damage control.

[joseph5620]

I do not think the injury is real. If you do, fine with me. Floyd will make another $200 mil because idiots like you that do not really understand the nuances of the sport will believe anything Manny/Bob/Freddie/HBO tells you.

It's interesting you point about what was said in the corner by Floyd Sr. It's almost as important as what Freddie didn't say in the corner. Freddie kept telling Manny to throw combinations and never once mentioned or asked Manny about his shoulder.

When was the last time you saw a boxing match where the trainer didn't ask a fighter about an injury, especially one that the trainer and promoter later cite as the reason the fighter didn't perform as usual?

Pacquiao missed with some hard right hooks late in the fight too. I'm not buying it and never will.

[Robbie Barrett]

I do not think the injury is real. If you do, fine with me. Floyd will make another $200 mil because idiots like you that do not really understand the nuances of the sport will believe anything Manny/Bob/Freddie/HBO tells you.

It's interesting you point about what was said in the corner by Floyd Sr. It's almost as important as what Freddie didn't say in the corner. Freddie kept telling Manny to throw combinations and never once mentioned or asked Manny about his shoulder.

When was the last time you saw a boxing match where the trainer didn't ask a fighter about an injury, especially one that the trainer and promoter later cite as the reason the fighter didn't perform as usual?

If it is true it's an old injury from 2009, Pacquiao already confirmed this. He's fought 12 fights with that injury. Now was the perfect time to use it as a reason to get a shot of toradol that numbs the entire body going in to the fight and use it as an excuse if he lost.

[Jake_Lamotta]

Gist of the thread

Pacquiao fans: he's an idiot
Fl0mos: he's right

[DeadLikeMe]

Over/under 15 posts before this new alt makes an idiot of himself talking about Mayweather while being oblivious to LaMotta's history?