Everyone complains about hugging and holding in the ring...

[Barcham]

But why don't the opponents...(those being hugged and held) do something about it?? what ever happened to not letting yourself be hugged and held?

how about some pushing? or some hitting in the back of the head or some kidney punches? I mean if the other person is gonna implement illegal tactics...why not fight fire with fire?? and let the other fighter pay the price for his tactics or he will stop doing it.....or better yet the ref would maybe start doing his job........

anyone???

I mean

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If you watch the Golovkin - Murray fight, you will see GGG doing close to exactly that. When Murray tried to clinch and hold in the first few rounds, GGG shoved him off or drove his head into Murray's chest and face. This forced Murray to release him and then GGG would tag him with a couple of hard shots when his arms were free. It did not take Murray long to abandon the strategy of trying to clinch and hold Golovkin.

[MPX309]

I think it's an opportunity for both people to have a rest. Even if you're not the one initiating it.

[ADP02]

That's bull****.................and you should know it................

Care to explain?

I gave you 2 examples of fighters getting 3 points deducted for doing something that you said should be done.

Not even saying you should or shouldn't but when you do, you can get points deducted and the other guy, well he didn't get any points deducted in the first place.

Example: Floyd did his share of dirty tactics with Hatton, Maidana, Ortiz and others. The only time that Floyd had a point deducted was just to counter the point that they deducted earlier on his opponents and it was many moons ago ...... but only once in all of his career that I can remember, while his opponents get hard warnings and points deducted.

[hhs661]

Seriously what Chad Dawson did to BHop was perfect. Lifted him up, threw him down and Hopkins got injured in the process. By then Dawson was already in his head in the second fight and won quite easily.

Why people do nothing about it makes no sense to me. You have two hands, do something about it

[SplitSecond]

maidana tried, he wasn't allowed...

alot of times i see fighters trying to fight out but because of how quick the ref is to shout "stop", any hitting there will warrant a warning

[ElMeroChingon]

Yep funny thing is most of the time they have a free hand and dont do ****

wrong
If you have pick the right ref, he wont even let you use your free hand and break you apart, so whats your point?

[Biolink]

If someone is determined to clinch you I don't really know what you could do about it especially if they are skilled.

Now bending below the waste you can do something about. Since they aren't in a position to throw punches, take their head and shove it down, put them in a headlock or use it as a swivel to move around and get better positioned. Anything besides headhunting and missing punches on them.

[goblin213]

Give them a kiss on the cheek, or suck or lick their necks, that'll make them think twice before doing that **** again. Of course this wouldn't work against Orlando Cruz.

[-Johannes-]

wrong
If you have pick the right ref, he wont even let you use your free hand and break you apart, so whats your point?

Most Refs let you work it out if one arm is free. Remember Angulo vs Alcine? Moret let Angulo fight with one free arm and hurt Alcine with it and proceeded to beat him up until he stopped him.

[QuebecSTAR2]

But why don't the opponents...(those being hugged and held) do something about it?? what ever happened to not letting yourself be hugged and held?

how about some pushing? or some hitting in the back of the head or some kidney punches? I mean if the other person is gonna implement illegal tactics...why not fight fire with fire?? and let the other fighter pay the price for his tactics or he will stop doing it.....or better yet the ref would maybe start doing his job........

anyone???

I mean

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u talkin' bout dis **** below?