Comments Thread For: Golden Boy Files Official Lawsuit Against Al Haymon

[Real Talk85]

This wont hold water. Haymon is a manager, and his fighters are basically free agents. They contract promoters, there is nothing wrong with what he is doing. Oscar is salty because his stable is trash and he got cut out of all the May vs Pac money because they cut out Goldenboy.

[deanrw]

Haymon might be doing things a bit sketchy, but legally he still might be doing things by the book, even though it appears he runs the entire show. What looks bad in the big scope, behind the scenes he seems to be covering his bases. The legalities are for the courts to decide I guess. Just because what he is doing is bad for business for other promoters, does not necessarily make his business model illegal.

As for his fighters best interests, they seem to be getting double or triple of what i consider their worth. They are the ones reaping the actual rewards more than anyone, at least up till this point.

The Monopoly part of it interests me though. It does seem that he is after a completely closed in sport. Is it actually illegal? Well that is another thing we will find out. Who knows, in the end he may have to call it something other than "boxing".

Right now we are just seeing other en******, who are used to soaking money up from the sport like a sponge, slowly being shut out. They are mad and launching lawsuits, but it is not due to worry about haymons fighters, it is all due to their own wells drying up.

[Eff Pandas]

Big difference HBO is just a network. And we NEVER hear fighters call HBO their promoter like Haymon fighters constantly slip up and do. Plus all HBO fighters are signed to an actual promoter. Fighters are signed to Haymon but officially have no promoter which is shady and adds to the claim. And the lawsuit just came out who is to say HBO won't join in? Already WBO and ABC have joined in Golden Boy's lawsuit of Haymon. Trust more promoters and organizations will follow. He is clearly more then just an adviser you have to be blind to not see that.

HBO is a network ran by people, PBC is ran by people. I don't see much difference outside of HBO running the show while showing favoritism towards promoters & PBC running the show while showing favoritism towards boxers.

Idk how not having a promoter is shady. One would think this would be the way for any name fighter to go to get his maximum value for each fight. I believe Floyd has shown this to be a fact.

Idk what it matters what boxers call anyone. Seems irrelevant & the fact its mentioned is probably just a clue how weak Oscar's case is.

I'm positive more alphabet groups & promoters will jump on this. They are the biggest "evil en******" in the sport right now. They don't really care if Haymon is good or bad they just see him making a move on their territory. If Haymon succeeds there will be one champion & promoters will be taking a fee to promote fights. If you're an alphabet group you want 4 champions & if you're a promoter you wanna be more of an investor to make more money.

[Dle]

Oscar trying to flex his muscle because it worked against Richarf Shafer. He's afraid that he'll lose more PPV monies since he had no cut of the biggest fight in history. He'll lose because Haymon will not settle but fight back which Oscar isn't used to any more. He's gotten softer I'd say.

[jjsmyth87]

Haymon will go broke trying to fight these cases

little bank vs big bank

Drop an x pill in the fish tank

[bigdog0331]

One bad year in 2014 which was a bad year of boxing overall like haymon is only one who has fighters signed and its haymon fault lol he obviously not the promoter because he using other promoters licenses to stage fight them fighters can call haymon daddy does it mean it's true if that's Oscar claim for filing suit he ***ed every fight we wanted in 2014 we gotten so far in 2015 except for Krusher vs superman and we know who is the issue this time around also Networks signing fighters to exclusive deals and then kicking all said fighters off network is a big issue

The reason Oscar let go of all those fighters was because he knew Haymon refused to accept the fights GBP proposed. He refused to make Russel vs Gonzalez until Russel left GBP and Gonzalez was free to use another promoter. He also executed the right to buy out Santa Cruz's contract when he was presented with a real fight. If you really watch boxing you should see that the past few years all the crappy boxing matches that HBO and Showtime put up where because of Haymon, he refused to fight good fighters. HBO broke away from GBP because of Haymon and Oscar realized that Shafener was a puppet to Haymon and parted ways with him. All the Haymon fighters where GBP fighters when they had no money and no fame. GBP created all those fighters from scratch. They fought Mares hard and built him a great fighter through wars now he's fighting chumps and so is Santa Cruz. If you like garbage fights that's your deal but if you like boxing then it's not good for the sport. Get your feelings out of the equation and see it for what it is.

[MC Hammer]

I haven't seen GB do well in a lawsuit/arbitration yet. Maybe the Canelo case but thats about it. He lost all of his fighters, and each have their own promotion company that they use to represent them to the Broadcasters, and haymon advises them on how to promote the event. That is the fine line he walks, and because no one is actually signed to him, but utilize his advice (look how easy Andre Direll left him, unlike ward with Goosen).

I don't know how Oscar can win this, when an arbitrator has already taken all the fighters that worked with GB from him. How can he prove any damage was done to him, when his company was #1 when they dealt with Haymon. And Haymon has no control over what promo company the fighters sign to.

[sicko]

After listening to the guy from the WBO it sound like they just want to know how he is doing what he is doing more than anything. Why are fighters jumping to him, how he is paying them good money I think that is what they want to know. Also think they're a little nervous about their future especially with fighters seeming to jump to him on a Weekly Bases. Then the WBO because if he makes his own belts that means these Belt Organizations won't be getting their fees from Top Fighters in Boxing

This Lawsuit would work if it was FIGHTERS and not Competition complaining about the way he does business.

[Pigeons]

P@cturds just don't understand. GBP isn't suing Haymon because of bad matchmaking. You idiots.

[Pigeons]

Haymon might be doing things a bit sketchy, but legally he still might be doing things by the book, even though it appears he runs the entire show. What looks bad in the big scope, behind the scenes he seems to be covering his bases. The legalities are for the courts to decide I guess. Just because what he is doing is bad for business for other promoters, does not necessarily make his business model illegal.

As for his fighters best interests, they seem to be getting double or triple of what i consider their worth. They are the ones reaping the actual rewards more than anyone, at least up till this point.

The Monopoly part of it interests me though. It does seem that he is after a completely closed in sport. Is it actually illegal? Well that is another thing we will find out. Who knows, in the end he may have to call it something other than "boxing".

Right now we are just seeing other en******, who are used to soaking money up from the sport like a sponge, slowly being shut out. They are mad and launching lawsuits, but it is not due to worry about haymons fighters, it is all due to their own wells drying up.

Yes, PBC is a monopoly. NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL aren't monopolies but PBC is.