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  • Larry the boss
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    #61
    Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer
    Reports say USADA admitted to knowing about the injury and approving the meds Pac was taking. USADA is operating under NSAC and reports everything to NSAC. Why would NSAC NOT KNOW THIS?
    Dude he did not disclose it..here it is in black and white

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    • Kagami Taiga
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      #62
      Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer
      Reports say USADA admitted to knowing about the injury and approving the meds Pac was taking. USADA is operating under NSAC and reports everything to NSAC. Why would NSAC NOT KNOW THIS?
      USADA has denied knowing of any injury. Better go back to reading the reports.

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        #63
        Originally posted by MrRolltide91
        Like it's the first time they signed something like this. Idiot probably checked no on everything without reading the fine print like they did the other 30 fights. I want to know though why NSAC wasn't aware of what USADA knew about the fighters?

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          #64
          Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer
          Like it's the first time they signed something like this. Idiot probably checked no on everything without reading the fine print like they did the other 30 fights. I want to know though why NSAC wasn't aware of what USADA knew about the fighters?
          “Disclosure is a big thing for us, and honesty,” Cisco Aguilar, the Nevada Athletic Commissioner chairman told the Daily News Monday. “The commission at some point will have to discuss (Pacquiao's medical questionnaire). I've got to run through the process with the (Nevada) Attorney General (Adam Laxalt). But they do sign that document under the penalty of perjury.”

          In addition to possible perjury charges looming, if a lawyer for Pacquiao signed the medical questionnaire, the lawyer might have a license issue. And there is case law that supports a possible class-action suit, where ticket holders could argue they didn't get what was promised - had Pacquiao been 100% healthy, it could have been a more entertaining fight.

          To make matters worse, Pacquiao and his promoter, Top Rank, released a statement Monday that said his advisers notified the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency — which oversaw drug testing for the fight — of Pacquiao's right shoulder injury well before the May 2 bout "during training." The statement also said USADA "confirmed in writing that the proposed treatments, if used, were completely allowed."

          Sources told The News, however, that Pacquiao's camp never informed USADA of the boxer's shoulder injury, and that the two calls his camp made to USADA prior to the fight were inquiries into whether certain substances Pacquiao was considering using were prohibited or not.

          Pacquiao's statement also said that the medication “approved for fight night was a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory (Toradol).” Aguilar said Pacquiao's team made a request hours before the fight for a lidocaine shot and anti-inflammatories.

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            #65
            Originally posted by LarryXXX
            Dude he did not disclose it..here it is in black and white

            Dude that's a piece of NSAC paper. What about the disclosures made to USADA. Does it mean USADA does not report to NSAC because it looks to me they were well aware about the injury and the meds, and surely they report results to NSAC. The "black and white" you refer to appears to be a mere formal instrument. NSAC cannot accept facts in a USADA report and also accept the "black and white" questionnaire at the same time as both true. Not possible legally. NSAC put this paper out in the media to protect their asses.

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              #66
              Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer
              Like it's the first time they signed something like this. Idiot probably checked no on everything without reading the fine print like they did the other 30 fights. I want to know though why NSAC wasn't aware of what USADA knew about the fighters?
              Simple yes and no questionnaire is now considered "fine print"

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                #67
                Originally posted by Kagami Taiga
                USADA has denied knowing of any injury. Better go back to reading the reports.
                I've read otherwise. So there are two statements from USADA now? Suddenly the stance is to deny it now like what NSAC is doing? Something's strange moving in the back.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer
                  Dude that's a piece of NSAC paper. What about the disclosures made to USADA. Does it mean USADA does not report to NSAC because it looks to me they were well aware about the injury and the meds, and surely they report results to NSAC. The "black and white" you refer to appears to be a mere formal instrument. NSAC cannot accept facts in a USADA report and also accept the "black and white" questionnaire at the same time as both true. Not possible legally. NSAC put this paper out in the media to protect their asses.
                  I'll make it easy for u:


                  To make matters worse, Pacquiao and his promoter, Top Rank, released a statement Monday that said his advisers notified the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency — which oversaw drug testing for the fight — of Pacquiao's right shoulder injury well before the May 2 bout "during training." The statement also said USADA "confirmed in writing that the proposed treatments, if used, were completely allowed."

                  Sources told The News, however, that Pacquiao's camp never informed USADA of the boxer's shoulder injury, and that the two calls his camp made to USADA prior to the fight were inquiries into whether certain substances Pacquiao was considering using were prohibited or not.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer
                    I've read otherwise. So there are two statements from USADA now? Suddenly the stance is to deny it now like what NSAC is doing? Something's strange moving in the back.
                    Only Arum and team pac have stated that USADA knew. They deny knowing. It's clear who's lying. Just say u don't wanna believe it.

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                    • mrpizza-nd_beer
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Kagami Taiga

                      To make matters worse, Pacquiao and his promoter, Top Rank, released a statement Monday that said his advisers notified the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency — which oversaw drug testing for the fight — of Pacquiao's right shoulder injury well before the May 2 bout "during training." The statement also said USADA "confirmed in writing that the proposed treatments, if used, were completely allowed."

                      Sources told The News, however, that Pacquiao's camp never informed USADA of the boxer's shoulder injury, and that the two calls his camp made to USADA prior to the fight were inquiries into whether certain substances Pacquiao was considering using were prohibited or not.
                      There was documentation on what USADA was disclosed to USADA. That cannot be refuted. They just have to show it.

                      On the other hand "sources" clearly does not cut it in rule of court.

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