Comments Thread For: Golovkin’s Promoter: Cotto Seeking Step-Aside Deal

[icha]

Tell that to Cotto and Canelo. And Ward too, because he expects to be paid at least 7 figures for feeble tune up fights.

I only bring up Canelo because people are putting him over GGG to fight Cotto and that is for one and only one reason... MONEY. Canelo is irrelevant to me as far as GGG is concerned.

Ward is not a draw and he is no longer a 'big name' in boxing. He may have been in the past, but that glory faded away 4 years ago with the Super Six tournament. He has done absolutely nothing since. It is only his few remaining fans who believe he means anything to the sport today. For everyone else, he symbolizes wasted potential. I do not think a win over him is worth any more than any other win.

In my opinion, Ward is the most over rated, over inflated fighter to come along in many decades. He has THREE good wins to his credit. THREE. Froch, Kessler and Abraham. And the most recent, Froch, was almost 4 years ago. None of those wins were particularly dominating - two were decisions and the Kessler fight was stopped by the ring doctor due to cuts caused by Ward head-butts and went to decision. Hardly dominating.

Most of Ward's resume is composed of 'who the **** are you' fighters that few people have ever heard of and only because their names are on Ward's resume. So no, I don't consider Ward to be a great fighter and would put a win over Cotto or Canelo or any number of other active fighters above a win over Ward.

LOL, canelo just fought lara, high risk low reward fighter...
anyways im a big canelo fan but i dont think a win over canelo means more than a win over ward, specially for a MW... but thats my opinion and i respect yours in that regard...

[joesaiditstrue]

Cotto don't want none, but I don't blame him, he isn't a middleweight. but here's the thing, his fans have to accept the hate coming his way because he is literally holding the belt hostage. Every fighter in the world has the right to try and obtain the lineal title in their division, and GGG is doing everything in his power to do that.

Remember, GGG and HBO wanted the Martinez fight, but Lou Dibella was on record saying Martinez isn't taking that fight, too much risk. So basically he ducked GGG, Cotto fans and Martinez fans cannot argue that fact. It came directly from his promoter's mouth

So now GGG is going after the guy who beat Martinez, and Cotto fans wanna say "He needs to wait his turn/Cotto isn't a Middleweight", those reasons hold no weight because in the sport of boxing, if you want CREDIT, you have to defend your belt against credible opponents, is this not the truth? Every boxing website/journalist has GGG as the main dude at 160. For Cotto to get CREDIT, he needs to defend the belt against GGG. Not Canelo, not Daniel Geale, those wins are "decent" wins, but those two guys don't deserve the opportunity at the belt

Cotto fans need to be real. You can say he isn't a middleweight or whatever you want, but that argument doesn't hold any weight when we're talking about whether or not Cotto deserves CREDIT for his reign at 160. Right now, he doesn't deserve any credit whatsoever.

[Weebler I]

No issue. I want cotto/canelo over GGG

HBO would be smart to make that fight because it could be a trilogy.

How is Cotto a diva for wanting a big money fight against the most poplular Mexican fighter instead of fighting some Euro who only feasts on bums and has no fans to call his own?

I believe Golovkin draws 10k out West, 7k in the East.

[aldo5408]

HBO would be smart to make that fight because it could be a trilogy.



I believe Golovkin draws 10k out West, 7k in the East.

You believe wrong. He drew 10k because he fought a mexican in LA. He can barely sell a few seats in the madison theatre not garden theatre

[ggg_kz]

You believe wrong. He drew 10k because he fought a mexican in LA.

Oh yeah that's why the whole Stubhub was roaring GGG all night, even mexicans rooting for GGG against the mexican. Fair and square, the number at the fight against Monroe at Forum will be a good barometer.

He can barely sell a few seats in the madison theatre not garden theatre

There were 8k at the garden main arena. the garden smaller venue's max capacity is 5k.

[AKAcronym]

You believe wrong. He drew 10k because he fought a mexican in LA. He can barely sell a few seats in the madison theatre not garden theatre

From someone who was there, that is completely wrong.

[Weebler I]

You believe wrong. He drew 10k because he fought a mexican in LA. He can barely sell a few seats in the madison theatre not garden theatre

As per ggg_kz above, the Kazakh selling thousands of tickets in the US would appear to have fans.

[mick1303]

but when it comes to ward you only cared about him not being a draw...
if cotto does it is wrong, but is also wrong if ggg does it, so to bring the draw excuse to the table is not something ggg fans should be doing...
and dont bring the mandatory çrap also, cuz you still bitçh about canelo when he has no obligation of fighting ggg either...
cant have it both ways...

The thing with going up in weight and fighting Ward is that basically there is no coming back down. Not without a serious detriment to the body. As of today GGG still can make 154 and be more or less effective there (even though his best weight is 160). All those ****** catchweights below 160 are also very possible for him, especially given that this would be for a very hefty payday. But once he goes up, this ship is sailed... Unless he'll fight at SMW but will not bulk up. He'll be a considerably smaller man, but maybe his other assets will save the day for him. Not a fair fight, but possible.

But now Ward returns to action and he is no longer at 168. He is going to fight at 172. What is the point of going up if there is no Ward there?

IMO, GGG will be better served to clean up 160 and sit on top of it as an undisputed champion, with possibly some trips to JMW...

[bigjavi973]

But Ward is the biggest draw in the sport! That's why his next fight is on BET. No other network is large enough to handle his immense fan base.


If I was GGG I would demand a 7 figure step aside fee along with a contract signed by both fighters and both promoters that guarantees that the winner will fight GGG in their next fight within 6 months, at the middleweight limit with no catchweight. They will also be prohibited from fighting any other opponent at any other weight class before fighting GGG. The fight will go on even if the title holder decides to vacate the title. The only alternative to not fighting GGG will be retirement from the sport.

Get that all in writing and certified and then and only then should GGG step aside for Cotto to fight Canelo.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA thats a good one! Got any more jokes?

[Barcham]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA thats a good one! Got any more jokes?

I said those were the terms I would demand if I were in Golovkin's position. Don't accept them? Then I do not step aside and Cotto vacates the title or is stripped. Simple enough.