Listen to rest of these boxing aficionados, unless they fought on black and white film, they can't be labeled the G.O.A.T. OR T.B.E....sheesh.
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Originally posted by Pan-Africanist View PostGeorge has a point from a talent standpoint but Ali's resume sh.its all over Floyd's.
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Originally posted by Joe Beamish View PostNobody is even close to Ali.
I think we can agree that the HW division in the 70s is a million times stronger, smarter and better than today's group.
Floyd and Pacquaio are great today. But....
If they fought in 1980, they'd only be on par with Wilfred Benitez, Sugar Ray Leonard, Alexis Arguello, Aaron Pryor, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran and Marvelous Marvin Hagler --- and probably some other dudes.
Ward, GGG and Rigondeaux are awfully good.
But overall I'd say today's boxers are beneath previous eras. Maybe close. But they sure as hell aren't better.
They only moved up because it was perfect timing, there were no REAL threats in the higher weight classes because they are clearly the two best fighters from this era, the 80s would have been totally different. They would have stayed in their lane, and it would have enhanced their legacies
Moving up weight classes is great for accolades and all that, but thats also what led to alot of 'ducking' accusations that taint legacies for many fighters today
If all those fighters were fighting in THIS era, an era where Andre Ward can make 3 million fighting Edwin Rodriguez and Mayweather can make 200 million in one night, I promise you, all of those fighters would have made 'business' decisions and avoided the fights that defined them back then
Different era, different fighters, theres no measuring stick to compare them, but the fact is, fighters of today, are indeed stronger, faster, smarter and better conditionedLast edited by MrP4P; 04-24-2015, 06:17 PM.
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I don't think he was talking about greatness, he was talking about technical proficiency. Floyd is one of the most technically sounds boxers ever. Ricardo Lopez is the only boxer I can think of who is also as sound technically. Roy, Ali, SRL, and Sweet Pea did things that cannot be taught to another fighter. They had very special gifts in the ring. Floyd's talent level ( speed, quickness, power, foot speed, and reflexes) is no better than Zab or a lot of other good fighters. He never gets sloppy, stays focused for the full fight, makes great adjustments on the fly, and stays sharp. Ricardo Lopez was the same. SRL was almost as good a pure boxer as Floyd, but he could drop it and fight too. I don't think Floyd can fight that way, but he is one of the best pure boxers ever. Everything Floyd does can be taught, same as Lopez, they excelled in the application of their knowledge in their craft. No trainer would try teach a kid to fight like Ali or Roy, but Lopez and Floyd are like reading a textbook on the sport.
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well i guess its time to crown wladimir the greatest heavyweight of all time .. if boxers have evolved now and are more talented then Wlad is hands down P4P king
my best fighters of this era
1.wlad (pure dominance of the heavyweight division)
2. bhop (his resume sh-ts on both manny and floyd)
3. floyd/manny (whoever wins May 2 gets number three on my list)Last edited by elishua F; 04-24-2015, 07:17 PM.
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floyd goes to hell and back to beat maidana, a guy easily dispatched by devon alexander. .how df is he "tbe" .. he ducks pwill, margarito and winky to fight baldomir, zab and mitchell, he "retires" to avoid the oscar rematch, and takes half a decade to fight pacquiao .. foreman is smoking that og Kush with the ****** sh-t he talking.
whats sad through all this is Ali cant even speak for himself
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