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  • #71
    Originally posted by jjsmyth87 View Post
    Arum was going to pay Chavez 7 million to fight ggg at 168, and if he won hr would have got 10 million the fight after, and if he lost he would have gotten 5 mill the fight after. So that's 12-17 million for 2 fights against someone coming up from 160 as opposed to fonfara who is a natural 175 lber. If Chavez was to get exposed he should have done it against ggg and Carl froch, both of whome arum could have gotten him fights with. Even Chavez Sr. Wanted his son to take the deal and now look, his career is in tatters
    chavez sr did not want him to take that extension deal with arum he sr was one pushing for jr to leave arum all sr wanted in his son first fight after that lay off was to fight an easier opponent and at 168 junior wouldn't listen and got what he deserved hopefully now he wisen up

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    • #72
      Originally posted by TMNTForever View Post
      Mexican fighters get ostracized for quitting. That doesn't mean they don't quit. What it means is Mexican fighters who quit suffer fan back lash.

      You officially sound more ****** than Arum.
      Arum clearly said Mexican fighters Don't quit not that they get ostracized for quitting. Perhaps that's what he meant to say or the msg he intended to deliver but that's not what he said. Sorry ****!

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      • #73
        Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
        chavez sr did not want him to take that extension deal with arum he sr was one pushing for jr to leave arum all sr wanted in his son first fight after that lay off was to fight an easier opponent and at 168 junior wouldn't listen and got what he deserved hopefully now he wisen up
        I remember different. I remember Sr. wanting his son to re-sign with Top Rank.

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        • #74
          All I read was " I am really good at protecting fighters"!

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          • #75
            Hate Arum all you want. But he's totally right about Chavez. He knows first hand how spoiled and lazy he is. He has no real skill or talent. Just a famous last name and his dad and Arum carefully put him at low weights Against naturally smaller fighters so he could rehydrate and have 20 pounds on the guy. Without the weight advantage he can't even compete. But he is so lazy that I don't even think he can make 168 let alone 160. The warning signs were there for this fight when his real daddy said he shouldn't take this fight. But his new daddy Haymon made him take it and ruined whatever hype he had left. Haymon paid Arum after he threatened to sue and now Chavez is damaged goods Killing Haymon plans for a mega fight with Froch.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
              I remember different. I remember Sr. wanting his son to re-sign with Top Rank.
              I'll find interview when Chavez sr was blaming arum for Floyd manny fight not happening and the stall in his son career

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              • #77
                Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
                This isn't Haymon's fault. Do you think Haymon was happy about last night?
                Chavez Jr. doesn't train. His own father in an interview he gave to ESPN deportes David Faitelson admitted that his son went into the fight without sparring much or even training. He only worked with Goosen a real trainer at the very beginning of March. The same thing that happened when he fought Sergio Martinez. idiot refused to train, was smoking pot, and even trained in the living room.

                Chavez Jr is lazy, and really a disgrace to boxing.
                I could care less about Jr. losing.. It's amusing. Just saying, Haymon obviously had an investment in Chavez Jr and he really hurt his stock. The guy hadn't fought in a year and you allow him to fight almost 2 full weight classes above.

                Again I don't really care, but I find it interesting.

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                • #78
                  Is everyone really so surprised?? This was a no brainer, I thought we ALL KNEW that he was 1. Protected and 2. getting gift decisions i.e. being pampered because he was ****. Why is Bob the snake admitting he's been selling us wolf tickets a surprise to anyone? Now Pacquiao is going to stop Mayweather and is looking amazing and will use the DeLaHoya blueprint to fell Floyd. Yah, sure Bob, whatever you say bob!

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                    Hate Arum all you want. But he's totally right about Chavez. He knows first hand how spoiled and lazy he is. He has no real skill or talent. Just a famous last name and his dad and Arum carefully put him at low weights Against naturally smaller fighters so he could rehydrate and have 20 pounds on the guy. Without the weight advantage he can't even compete. But he is so lazy that I don't even think he can make 168 let alone 160. The warning signs were there for this fight when his real daddy said he shouldn't take this fight. But his new daddy Haymon made him take it and ruined whatever hype he had left. Haymon paid Arum after he threatened to sue and now Chavez is damaged goods Killing Haymon plans for a mega fight with Froch.
                    Maybe the real intention was Froch vs Fonfara?

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
                      I'll find interview when Chavez sr was blaming arum for Floyd manny fight not happening and the stall in his son career
                      Please do, I remember an article from boxingscene that Chavez Sr was trying to convince Jr to take the top rank offer.

                      Sr trusts Arum deeply since Bob got him those big paydays after Don let him go.

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