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  • Ringlife
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    #61
    It sucks that this fight won't be happening anytime soon,this was one of those fights that is a must see. I'm just happy that May vs Pac got made and Matthysse vs Provodnikov got made as well. Hey I guess we can't have it all.

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    • kafkod
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      #62
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      FINALLY, a poster man enough to admit prematurely attacking Adonis was wrong.

      Thanks Ray!
      There was nothing premature about attacking Stevenson for pulling out of fighting Kovalev last year. That was a blatent duck.

      Ok, he subsequently got paid more by Haymon for fighting Sukhotsky and Bika than Duva was going to pay him for fighting Kovalev.

      But that's peanuts compared to what he could have earned by beating Krusher then going on to BHop and Pascal with all 4 belts on the line both times.

      IF he and Haymon had believed he was capable of doing it, of course.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Ray*
        This is why I don't normally jump on the "He ducking us crap" but I let my guard down for this one, I too jumped on the Adonis is ducking Kobalev bandwagon. This right now just show me why I was wrong.
        True. HBO killed this fight by not putting up enough money. Now they killed it again with this their way or the highway approach and using Kathy Duva as their pawn.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #64
          Originally posted by kafkod
          There was nothing premature about attacking Stevenson for pulling out of fighting Kovalev last year. That was a blatent duck.

          Ok, he subsequently got paid more by Haymon for fighting Sukhotsky and Bika than Duva was going to pay him for fighting Kovalev.

          But that's peanuts compared to what he could have earned by beating Krusher then going on to BHop and Pascal with all 4 belts on the line both times.

          IF he and Haymon had believed he was capable of doing it, of course.
          Did you read Reeno's article about what happened? If so, then it was premature for anyone to blame Adonis.

          I interpreted Ray's post as an acknowledgement that duva/kov are now ducking the fight.

          Maybe the word premature is bad.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #65
            Originally posted by Barcham
            Haymon could not put this fight on any network other than Showtime for it to be PPV in Canada or at least Quebec. It is impossible to block out an OTA channel that anyone can get with a 5 buck antenna. Seeing as it cannot be on a free network channel, HBO would have the lead in negotiations as they are the only way to go with a PPV option in Canada. Unless Haymon goes to Showtime. But it will not be a PBC fight.
            ok, then even more of a reason for Kathy not to do this. There is literally no justification for her actions.

            Some posters see that and have just accepted it. Others are doing everything they can to shift this for whatever reasons.

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            • Barcham
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              #66
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              ok, then even more of a reason for Kathy not to do this. There is literally no justification for her actions.

              Some posters see that and have just accepted it. Others are doing everything they can to shift this for whatever reasons.
              I'm not trying to shift it. I am saying that no one is without blame in this situation, from Duva to GYM to WBC to HBO. They all share in the blame. I said in an earlier post that I believe Duva thought that GYM would never accept to fight Kovalev under any circumstances. She was out to get Stevenson to vacate the title. Her bluff was called and now she has to deal with it. IT is just another typical day in the boxing world when it comes to getting a top quality fight signed. And crap like THAT is why boxing will never again attain the position it once had in the world of sports.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #67
                Originally posted by Barcham
                I'm not trying to shift it. I am saying that no one is without blame in this situation, from Duva to GYM to WBC to HBO. They all share in the blame. I said in an earlier post that I believe Duva thought that GYM would never accept to fight Kovalev under any circumstances. She was out to get Stevenson to vacate the title. Her bluff was called and now she has to deal with it. IT is just another typical day in the boxing world when it comes to getting a top quality fight signed. And crap like THAT is why boxing will never again attain the position it once had in the world of sports.
                OK. There was a lot of blame to go around when this first fell apart and Stevenson went with haymon/showtime according to Rick Reeno. Now, I don't know how you can fault Stevenson/haymon.

                Duva asked for the mandatory status, then pulled out of the purse bid. SHe is either incompetent and cheap or, lying and covering up for HBO.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  OK. There was a lot of blame to go around when this first fell apart and Stevenson went with haymon/showtime according to Rick Reeno. Now, I don't know how you can fault Stevenson/haymon.

                  Duva asked for the mandatory status, then pulled out of the purse bid. SHe is either incompetent and cheap or, lying and covering up for HBO.
                  If someone was saying all along there was blame to go around that is one thing, wheeling that out now is a bit late if your tune was different a year ago.

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                    #69
                    I'm trying to stay as impartial as possible, because I like both Stev and Kov and I do not believe either man is afraid of the other but it's clear, from everything I've read including these letters that Duvas is the one backing out. For what? Only time will tell.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      If someone was saying all along there was blame to go around that is one thing, wheeling that out now is a bit late if your tune was different a year ago.
                      Agreed Gambler. If you went HAAM back then, do it now.

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