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  • #61
    Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
    He's really not.
    He was good at 135 but since being schooled by Abril and then moving up what has he actually done to show he is any good, was getting beat by Chavez before a dodgy DQ,hammered by Pacqauio beat and then got beat by Alvarado and beat a mentally ****ed up Alvarado for the trilogy. How does this make him better than Alexander?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by emre belozoglu View Post
      He was good at 135 but since being schooled by Abril and then moving up what has he actually done to show he is any good, was getting beat by Chavez before a dodgy DQ,hammered by Pacqauio beat and then got beat by Alvarado and beat a mentally ****ed up Alvarado for the trilogy. How does this make him better than Alexander?
      What has Alexander done?

      Getting his ass beat by Porter, losing every round to Khan. At the lower weight (where he belongs) he got gift decisions over Kotelnik and Matthysse and then ran from the division after getting beat down and quitting against Bradley.

      I'm not claiming Rios is a great fighter, he's just a solid pressure fighter. What I am saying is that Alexander is FAR from a 'way better' fighter than Rios.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
        What has Alexander done?

        Getting his ass beat by Porter, losing every round to Khan. At the lower weight (where he belongs) he got gift decisions over Kotelnik and Matthysse and then ran from the division after getting beat down and quitting against Bradley.

        I'm not claiming Rios is a great fighter, he's just a solid pressure fighter. What I am saying is that Alexander is FAR from a 'way better' fighter than Rios.
        Alexander has proved far more than Rios against top opposition. Witter, Corley Uranago, Karrass, Maidana , Purdy , Bailey all dominant performances. Went tight with Kotelnik, Mattesssye. Put up a decent fight with Bradley before quiting, porter beat him down but Alexander did win a few rounds and then A bad showing against Khan. All this versus a dogdy DQ win against a tough fighter but not someone who was even in the top 10, a win against Alvarado aswell as a loss, A Dq against peterson, a schooling from Abril , a beating from Pacqauio. I dont think you can objectively make a case for Rios

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        • #64
          Originally posted by emre belozoglu View Post
          Alexander has proved far more than Rios against top opposition. Witter, Corley Uranago, Karrass, Maidana , Purdy , Bailey all dominant performances. Went tight with Kotelnik, Mattesssye. Put up a decent fight with Bradley before quiting, porter beat him down but Alexander did win a few rounds and then A bad showing against Khan. All this versus a dogdy DQ win against a tough fighter but not someone who was even in the top 10, a win against Alvarado aswell as a loss, A Dq against peterson, a schooling from Abril , a beating from Pacqauio. I dont think you can objectively make a case for Rios
          What?

          You just listed Lee Purdy as 'top competition'....the only 'top' guy on that list is Maidana, and it was his first fight at 147 and it was dreadful, it was nothing but slap and hold for 12 rounds.

          He was not close with Kotelnik, he got outboxed entirely and its one of the worst decisions in recent memory. Alexander's loss to Khan was worse than Rios' loss to Pacquiao, at least Rios lost to one of the best.

          None of these guys have great resumes, but Rios is a more difficult fight than Alexander is.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
            What?

            You just listed Lee Purdy as 'top competition'....the only 'top' guy on that list is Maidana, and it was his first fight at 147 and it was dreadful, it was nothing but slap and hold for 12 rounds.

            He was not close with Kotelnik, he got outboxed entirely and its one of the worst decisions in recent memory. Alexander's loss to Khan was worse than Rios' loss to Pacquiao, at least Rios lost to one of the best.

            None of these guys have great resumes, but Rios is a more difficult fight than Alexander is.
            Ok fair enough if you think Rios is better, no way of knowing that. Alexander has accomplished more though and Maidana is the best win either has. Alexander would likely beat Rios head to head if he could 12-0 Maidana.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by emre belozoglu View Post
              Alexander has proved far more than Rios against top opposition. Witter, Corley Uranago, Karrass, Maidana , Purdy , Bailey all dominant performances. Went tight with Kotelnik, Mattesssye. Put up a decent fight with Bradley before quiting, porter beat him down but Alexander did win a few rounds and then A bad showing against Khan. All this versus a dogdy DQ win against a tough fighter but not someone who was even in the top 10, a win against Alvarado aswell as a loss, A Dq against peterson, a schooling from Abril , a beating from Pacqauio. I dont think you can objectively make a case for Rios
              Indeed..Devons resume is no joke

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              • #67
                Originally posted by emre belozoglu View Post
                Alexander has proved far more than Rios against top opposition. Witter, Corley Uranago, Karrass, Maidana , Purdy , Bailey
                What a murderous row.

                Dominating and Devon Alexander should really not go in the same sentence. Have you even ever watched him fight?

                Rios last performance was devastating. Alexander looked like a novice.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by FrankieBruno View Post
                  Indeed..Devons resume is no joke


                  None of those guys are anything special. Maidana yes, but he moved up in weight and was not ready for it. Even then he hugged himself to victory - Klitschko style.

                  The rest is made up of the Purdeys and the Witters of the world.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                    What a murderous row.

                    Dominating and Devon Alexander should really not go in the same sentence. Have you even ever watched him fight?

                    Rios last performance was devastating. Alexander looked like a novice.
                    The fights he won well was mostly not against the top opposition but he did go through the gauntley especially compared to how weak Rios resume is.
                    Bradley Khan Maidana Mattysse Kotelnik Porter all very good fighters and compared to Rios , you cant compare.

                    Alvardo was a mess everyone acknowledged that, good win but was this guy mentally right. Alvarado is also not very good either way and Alexandr would be a books favourite against him.

                    You just compared two fights against totally different levels of opponent. Alexander have ahcieved and proven more than Rios.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by LacedUp View Post


                      None of those guys are anything special. Maidana yes, but he moved up in weight and was not ready for it. Even then he hugged himself to victory - Klitschko style.

                      The rest is made up of the Purdeys and the Witters of the world.
                      If i recall Brook ducked Devon 2 or 3 times,

                      Khan went out there and cleaned up the mess Brook had left behind

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