Miguel Cotto Next Fight Will Be On HBO, Started Training With Roach On Monday

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  • Barcham
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    #61
    Originally posted by StopCrying...
    It's just a bit curious how you state that Cotto beat a "cripple" to win the 160lb belt, but you somehow think that GGG needs to beat Cotto for some MW relevance. If you sincerely believe Cotto beat a "cripple" in Martinez, then why the burning desire to see GGG vs Cotto? Is Cotto not worthy but somehow worthy? Why not wish a more competetive fight for GGG such as Ward? I know you are going to reply by saying that GGG is somehow more awesome by fighting the smaller Cotto as opposed to taking on the bigger Ward but I think this math only works in your universe. I think deep down, the very people claiming Cotto sucks, are secret admirers.
    How many times do I have to say this... I have no interest is seeing a GGG - Cotto fight. It would be a total mismatch and more of a straight beat down than anything else. I would prefer to see Cotto vacate his title and not get his face beat in. But Cotto holds a MW title, the LINEAL title, and he should either defend it against his mandatory, GGG, or drop it. Ward is not a MW and I do not even consider him to be a champion at SMW. There is nothing to be gained in a fight with Ward, no money and no prestige in beating a guy who has had two fights in three and a half years.

    But that being said, I have no objections at all to a fight with Ward once Ward says he is ready and that fight is more profitable than any fight at MW. Right now, Ward cannot even get a fight booked on either HBO or Showtime and is a total non factor in boxing. Let me know when he gets back in the game and is ready for some good competition.

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      #62
      Originally posted by bigjavi973
      I been took you off ignore...

      as for the upcoming fight dont know im not in the cotto camp. Funny how ya b^tching about the martinez catchweight when martinez defended that very same belt at a catchweight of 158 lbs.
      I'll complain about any catchweight title fight no matter who demands the catchweight. GGG did not ask for one in the contract to fight JCC Jr. at SMW but if he was to ask for one to fight Ward for Ward's title, I would be all over him for it. I do not consider catchweight fights to be proper title fights. No title at stake? I don't care. Title at stake? Be a man and defend it or challenge for it at the proper weight class. If you can only make 155 and your opponent can hit 160, tough luck for you. They are both equally legal weights in the MW division and maybe you should think of fighting in a division more suited to your physique.

      No exceptions.
      Last edited by Barcham; 04-07-2015, 02:00 PM.

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        #63
        Glad to hear Cotto is back in the gym. He's been inactive for too long.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Barcham
          How many times do I have to say this... I have no interest is seeing a GGG - Cotto fight. It would be a total mismatch and more of a straight beat down than anything else. I would prefer to see Cotto vacate his title and not get his face beat in. But Cotto holds a MW title, the LINEAL title, and he should either defend it against his mandatory, GGG, or drop it. Ward is not a MW and I do not even consider him to be a champion at SMW. There is nothing to be gained in a fight with Ward, no money and no prestige in beating a guy who has had two fights in three and a half years.

          But that being said, I have no objections at all to a fight with Ward once Ward says he is ready and that fight is more profitable than any fight at MW. Right now, Ward cannot even get a fight booked on either HBO or Showtime and is a total non factor in boxing. Let me know when he gets back in the game and is ready for some good competition.

          Voluntary. You are getting worked up for what? Because you you can't press fast forward in life and confirm if Cotto will be "defending" his MW title against GGG after Geale or not? Again, as I got older, I became more patient. At 57, ( I am not holding it against you as I am no ageist prick looking for an angle on someone who happens to have been born before me,) I would expect you to be more rational and less impatient. It seems your issue with Cotto is not merely a general stance you have but rather a specific disdain for the kid.

          Cotto is defending against a legit MW. Cotto is taking his voluntary defense. I don't see the issue. I don't know if GGG is next or not. So to get emotional about and cry for Cotto to vacate would seem premature.

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            #65
            On another note, I didn't know Provodnikov was also working with Gavin McMillon for strength and conditioning. With that in mind, I think he will be an even tougher fight for Matthysse. I am a fan of both and was tipping Lucas to win, but now knowing this new info, it makes it even closer. Provodnikov still has trouble staying disciplined and falls into habits of following guys he's pressuring, instead of cutting off the ring. His conditioning should be great, but he needs to learn to adjust mid-fight to be successful.

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              #66
              Originally posted by StopCrying...
              Voluntary. You are getting worked up for what? Because you you can't press fast forward in life and confirm if Cotto will be "defending" his MW title against GGG after Geale or not? Again, as I got older, I became more patient. At 57, ( I am not holding it against you as I am no ageist prick looking for an angle on someone who happens to have been born before me,) I would expect you to be more rational and less impatient. It seems your issue with Cotto is not merely a general stance you have but rather a specific disdain for the kid.

              Cotto is defending against a legit MW. Cotto is taking his voluntary defense. I don't see the issue. I don't know if GGG is next or not. So to get emotional about and cry for Cotto to vacate would seem premature.
              Are you even paying attention to what you write and what people are replying to? You asked why I thought GGG needed to beat Cotto to be relevant. I posted to state that he does not need to beat Cotto or even to fight him at all. I did not post any complaint about Cotto's voluntary defense and I will not do so as long as it is not at a catchweight.

              Yes, I am a bit impatient about it taking a year for Cotto to get his voluntary defense done. I think his excuses about Roach are invalid. Tough luck, get a different trainer.

              I am tired of people dragging Ward into every post about GGG. The guy still hasn't gotten one tune up fight done yet. He is a non factor and not a middleweight. The only conversations that should involve Ward are those asking why HE has not moved up to 175 yet instead of waiting to fight a middleweight.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Barcham
                Are you even paying attention to what you write and what people are replying to? You asked why I thought GGG needed to beat Cotto to be relevant. I posted to state that he does not need to beat Cotto or even to fight him at all. I did not post any complaint about Cotto's voluntary defense and I will not do so as long as it is not at a catchweight.

                Yes, I am a bit impatient about it taking a year for Cotto to get his voluntary defense done. I think his excuses about Roach are invalid. Tough luck, get a different trainer.

                I am tired of people dragging Ward into every post about GGG. The guy still hasn't gotten one tune up fight done yet. He is a non factor and not a middleweight. The only conversations that should involve Ward are those asking why HE has not moved up to 175 yet instead of waiting to fight a middleweight.



                "I would prefer to see Cotto vacate his title and not get his face beat in. But Cotto holds a MW title, the LINEAL title, and he should either defend it against his mandatory, GGG, or drop it." ~Barcham

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                • El Angel
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                  #68
                  HBO won't show his next fight doe

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                  • CANELOLUJAH
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                    #69
                    at least he aint fighting on BET like his promtional stablemate ward, thats all I gotta say.

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                    • Barcham
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by D-Checc
                      at least he aint fighting on BET like his promtional stablemate ward, thats all I gotta say.
                      Until his opponent is officially announced, and the fight is confirmed by HBO, I would not count anything out.

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