PBC Belts are in production

[Eff Pandas]

They only this works is if a PBC guy becomes the next crossover star in the sport like a Floyd, Oscar, or Pacquiao. A guy that makes casual sports fans tune into watch.

Thats nuts. PBC needs more than 1 big name guy. **** they had Mayweather basically til September (Floyd's been a Haymon fighter for a decade). If Mayweather was all they needed then Haymon would just need to shoot Mayweather another 4 or so checks over the next 2-4yrs, throw him on primetime NBC or Fox & PBC is running things by the time Mayweather re-retired.

What PBC needs is a critical mass of talent. Then they lure away the bigger names with more money slowly over a period of time as their opponent selection is reduced & I'd assume the money they can get becomes lesser. Its beginning to happen now. Its a long ass process doe.

[LoadedWraps]

I guess it's on the fans and the media not to recognise any PBC belt, to treat it like a lesser WBA interim or BKB belt or something.

Nonsense. This is great for boxing. Fans should recognize the PBC belts as the only true belts, because that's what boxing needs, one sanctioning body, not many, one recognized champion, not inconsistencies between bodies.


WAR AL HAYMON!

[Lester Tutor]

Boxing, the non regulated sport, a corrupt one for decades, Haymon nor the general public dont keep up with belts or which council produces them. The aim to offer the public action and qualified fighters, and good ratings. How it will evolve is a matter of time. Haymon knows the system and knows bigger people outside the boxing industry. Dont be surprised Haymon will have newer ventures for other outlets in Broadcast Media.

[Hougigo]

Was anybody else at the start of the landslide Fail that was BTG and Ohara.... it was glorious. O'Hara took it on the chin... Michelle... not so much

[soul_survivor]

One belt per division is awesome, I can get behind that but when that division is being fought over by the dregs of the division, then there's no importance to that title. How can you have an umber one lhw fight if it doesn't feature Kovalev? Bradley is widely regarded as the second best welterweight to Pacquio and Pac himself ain't fighting on PBC any time soon? Then there's issues with neither GGG nor Canelo featuring with Haymon and the heavyweight dominated by europeans who will never be exclusively PBC owned.

It worked in MMA because MMA was never like boxing but it won't work here.

[soul_survivor]

Nonsense. This is great for boxing. Fans should recognize the PBC belts as the only true belts, because that's what boxing needs, one sanctioning body, not many, one recognized champion, not inconsistencies between bodies.


WAR AL HAYMON!

I agree that's what boxing needs but the level of a champion and the importance of a belt is judged by the competition on offer and in at least 5-6 divisions in boxing, the top fights won't get made because certain fighters are not involved with Haymon or PBC.

[bigdunny1]

One belt per division is awesome, I can get behind that but when that division is being fought over by the dregs of the division, then there's no importance to that title. How can you have an umber one lhw fight if it doesn't feature Kovalev? Bradley is widely regarded as the second best welterweight to Pacquio and Pac himself ain't fighting on PBC any time soon? Then there's issues with neither GGG nor Canelo featuring with Haymon and the heavyweight dominated by europeans who will never be exclusively PBC owned.

It worked in MMA because MMA was never like boxing but it won't work here.

Exactly. Max Kellerman had a great comment about PBC. He said one of the problems with PBC and why it's getting weak ratings is they don't have the top fighters. Said you call it Premier Boxing Champions but it's more like minor league boxing because the elite fighters and biggest names in boxing don't fight on PBC. He said it's like MLS soccer in this country. The biggest soccer fans know the best and biggest soccer players are over seas in better leagues. So they can call it Major League Soccer but everyone who follows soccer knows it's just minor league soccer. Same with PBC, Kellerman is exactly right. They can create belts but when all the top point for pound fighters and all the biggest names and all the true world Champs are not on PBC those belts become meaningless.

[boxinghead530]

Nonsense. This is great for boxing. Fans should recognize the PBC belts as the only true belts, because that's what boxing needs, one sanctioning body, not many, one recognized champion, not inconsistencies between bodies.


WAR AL HAYMON!

Why would you consider it as the only true belt? If true and pbc makes its own belt id consider it way more meaningless than the other 3-4 belts out. Pbc boxing is just a very very small percentage of boxing as a whole sport and championship caliber fighter wise that percentage is even smaller. So making a belt and crowning your own fighters as champion is pretty much a joke.

[Eff Pandas]

One belt per division is awesome, I can get behind that but when that division is being fought over by the dregs of the division, then there's no importance to that title.

Thats going on right now bro. There are 68+ world champions in boxing lmfao. To keep up with the champions in boxing today you gotta be autistic or have that Dustin Hoffman Rainman disorder.

It worked in MMA because MMA was never like boxing but it won't work here.

Different animals thus different approaches, but same issue. Resolving chaos, corruption & making a sport that more resembles the winning formula every other sport in the world has decided is a superior way to run things.

If its doable right now is a legit question & maybe it can't be done right now, but someone will do it eventually as boxing becomes smaller & less important over the years since boxing divided under the every man for himself system will still be takeoverable by a person or group who learns from Haymon's failures. And the more every man for itself it becomes the easier it'll be for whoever brings boxing into a real unified elite league of boxing.

So you are definitely wrong cuz boxing can't be run like a f#cking traveling circus forever, but instead of the change occurring in the next 10 years under Haymon it may happen within the next 25 years under some other cat.

Boxing, the non regulated sport, a corrupt one for decades, Haymon nor the general public dont keep up with belts or which council produces them. The aim to offer the public action and qualified fighters, and good ratings. How it will evolve is a matter of time. Haymon knows the system and knows bigger people outside the boxing industry.

This. This concept is on a slow burn & already Haymon has an unprecedented number of elite fighters under the PBC umbrella. As things go even bigger & wider more people will start to imagine the impact an elite league of boxing will have for the betterment of a sport long fractured with numerous players only thinking about the best moves for them today instead of ever thinking of the greater good of the sport moving into tomorrow.

Nonsense. This is great for boxing. Fans should recognize the PBC belts as the only true belts, because that's what boxing needs, one sanctioning body, not many, one recognized champion, not inconsistencies between bodies.

I think we are a ways off from PBC belts cuz it has little meaning in a universe where PBC only has connections to 28%-ish of elite fighters as they currently do. Over the next year or three when we can assume & speculate that Haymon's web of influence extends to more fighters & becomes more complete in divisions (Haymon gots 8 of the 11 guys ranked by TBRB, Ring & ESPN @ 154 fighting under PBC or contracted with him already) thus it becomes more conceivable later on.

Haymon gots bigger problems to contend with before he'll need to put the alphabet groups out of business or just diminish there impact, the latter of which I think is more likely for the foreseeable future, but the former being greatly needed for boxing to prosper I feel.

I agree that's what boxing needs but the level of a champion and the importance of a belt is judged by the competition on offer and in at least 5-6 divisions in boxing, the top fights won't get made because certain fighters are not involved with Haymon or PBC.

Top fights don't get made now. Top fights didn't get made pre-Haymon 16ish years ago & definitely didn't get made pre-PBC just 10 months ago so don't blame it on them. Top fights haven't been getting made since I've been watching boxing during this era of "4 champions" & this era of powerful promoters trying to keep their influence intact with carefully made decisions, long term contracts keeping boxers under control of the promoter & strategic signings to insure they keep the guy who beats their guy in house therefore their power flowing thru the next generation of boxers.

[soul_survivor]

Thats going on right now bro. There are 68+ world champions in boxing lmfao. To keep up with the champions in boxing today you gotta be autistic or have that Dustin Hoffman Rainman disorder.

You're whole argument is, top fights weren't getting made before and they won't get made now which is absolute bs, in recent years we've had Kovalev v Bhop, Canelo v Cotto, Cotto v Martinez, Rigo v Donaire, Fury v Wlad, Wlad v Povetkin/Pulev, Khan v Maidana/Judah/Paulie (would have been Bradley too if Tim didn't move up), Pac v Cotto/JMM/Barrera/Morales and so on. The top guys, all fight each other in their divisions.

the problem with Haymon, he hasn't put together such fights, apart from possibly DeGale v Dirrell and Jack v Groves. The issue is, they featured brits who weren't exclusive to haymon (things may be different with Chunky now).

WIth PBCs exclusivity, there is noway that Kovalev v Adonis will happen and if it does, it will happen without the organisational straps, or Fury/Wilder or a top welter versus DG for example. So all we have, at the very least, is the PBC strap getting added to the more respected WBA/WBO/IBF/WBC. At worse, anyone holding the PBC strap just gets laughed out of the sport.